ManxTaxPayer Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, Happier diner said: I think we are agreeing really. That's what I meant to say....sort of. Perhaps they are mutually beneficial, but rubbish on their own. We're not really agreeing. I'd take the radio on its own over the racing on its own anyday, or even combined. Watching the racing is too dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Ship Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 £14.99 is ridiculously cheap. But as has already been said, how can you possibly do live TV coverage of TT races and practices? Unless there are about 100+ cameras around the course, I can't see many people bothering to follow it. On radio you can just about get away with three or four commentary points as radio* is a verbal medium, but with a visual medium I don't understand how it can be done. And if it can be done, there's no way on earth that a subs fee of £14.99 could ever fund the necessary technology and manpower. *Isn't that one of the reasons so many people liked Roy Moore? (Although I can't stand his commentary... ) People could just listen to him waffle on and reminisce even when nothing was happening in front of him. People don't have that tolerance on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Ghost Ship said: £14.99 is ridiculously cheap. But as has already been said, how can you possibly do live TV coverage of TT races and practices? Unless there are about 100+ cameras around the course, I can't see many people bothering to follow it. On radio you can just about get away with three or four commentary points as radio* is a verbal medium, but with a visual medium I don't understand how it can be done. And if it can be done, there's no way on earth that a subs fee of £14.99 could ever fund the necessary technology and manpower. Yes £14.99 does seem cheap. But I think we need to see what we get this year before coming to a definitive answer. If it proves itself then people I’m sure will be prepared to pay more in subsequent years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTaxPayer Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 £14.99 is too cheap to provide a service worth having, but it's going to be too expensive to be acceptable to enough customers to make it worthwhile. That's always going to be the problem with such a stupidly long track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Maybe they're going to dot those DOI electricians around the course with their kiddie style so called ANPR cameras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Ship Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, ManxTaxPayer said: £14.99 is too cheap to provide a service worth having... Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Ship Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 If they sell 50k subs that brings* in £750k. Is that enough to provide the service? They might be content to make a loss in year one, but they won't be able to recover it for another year, will they? *I have no idea if 50,000 susbscribers is a reasonable or achievable number, and I've no idea what it would cost to provide coverage. I've heard that coverage would be 20 or so cameras around the course and a couple of helicopters. I have absolutely no idea what that would cost Also, I'd have thought that coverage would be so complicated trying to cover a live time trial that co-ordinating the camera shots meaningfully would be an almost impossible task. It would require infallible split second timing by the director. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ghost Ship said: If they sell 50k subs that brings* in £750k. Is that enough to provide the service? They might be content to make a loss in year one, but they won't be able to recover it for another year, will they? *I have no idea if 50,000 susbscribers is a reasonable or achievable number, and I've no idea what it would cost to provide coverage. I've heard that coverage would be 20 or so cameras around the course and a couple of helicopters. I have absolutely no idea what that would cost Also, I'd have thought that coverage would be so complicated trying to cover a live time trial that co-ordinating the camera shots meaningfully would be an almost impossible task. It would require infallible split second timing by the director. And dont forget the advertising. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 25 minutes ago, Ghost Ship said: If they sell 50k subs that brings* in £750k. Is that enough to provide the service? They might be content to make a loss in year one, but they won't be able to recover it for another year, will they? *I have no idea if 50,000 susbscribers is a reasonable or achievable number, and I've no idea what it would cost to provide coverage. I've heard that coverage would be 20 or so cameras around the course and a couple of helicopters. I have absolutely no idea what that would cost Also, I'd have thought that coverage would be so complicated trying to cover a live time trial that co-ordinating the camera shots meaningfully would be an almost impossible task. It would require infallible split second timing by the director. The Manx Grand Prix had a fair crack at it by livestreaming their races onto their own site and Facebook. Not perfect and working within restrictions with all amateur manpower, it proved that it can be done and reasonably cost effectively. The first year they had over 1m people tuned in around the world at some points. Obviously some just clicked onto the FB post which was shared amongst friends and watched a few minutes or even seconds. I'm sure the TT coverage will be something special. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizo Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 All crying on faceache as they’re getting rid of the commentary points at GH and the hairpin. No Woy either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 If commercial stations like Energy are providing coverage then why are Manx Radio continuing with it? Surely they should be sticking to their basic news and current affairs remit? Treasury should step in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 5 hours ago, Max Power said: I'm sure the TT coverage will be something special. I'm sure the TT coverage will be something very expensive to the GMT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ďouglas Peel Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, Gizo said: All crying on faceache as they’re getting rid of the commentary points at GH and the hairpin. No Woy either. I hope they keep Tommy Robb at Ballacraine 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ďouglas Peel said: I hope they keep Tommy Robb at Ballacraine 😄 I just hope they are not relying on the governments webcams there a joke at the moment this lot cant get anything right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 32 minutes ago, 0bserver said: If commercial stations like Energy are providing coverage then why are Manx Radio continuing with it? Surely they should be sticking to their basic news and current affairs remit? Treasury should step in. That’s a bit like saying why should the BBC continue provide news coverage when Sky News are doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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