Happier diner Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 10 hours ago, finlo said: Yes you can. Maybe, theoretically you could. Not a sensible way to do things though eh? Spend millions designing something based upon a plan and then make compulsory purchases. What sort of society do you want to live in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Roxanne said: If I could be arsed I could show you many photos with the whole area under metres of water. That’s why the plans were thrown out. You can’t run a sewage treatment plant on a designated flood plain. No drama required - just fact Well the plans I saw had all the equipment that could be damaged by flood at an elevation way above the predicted worst flood level. Yes the car park etc. would be flooded but not the treatment building or the electrical bits. Do you think the people who design such things are that stupid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Jax said: I think not wanting something in one's 'backyard' is actually ok sometimes. I too wouldn't want sewage treatment works in my 'backyard', particularly if my 'backyard' was an area the MUA themselves had identified as a place likely to flood and if it was in the middle of a tourist area which is designated as a conservation area meaning homeowners themselves can't change basic things without jumping through hoops. We didn't have to put up with this type of construction in popular areas down south, so why do they in Laxey? Seems to me that the MUA thought they could just force it through on the people of Laxey. I'm sure there were other options talked about at the time which were less intrusive on peoples lives and were, in the grand scheme of things, just a little more expensive. The chalets will have been chosen as the ideal spot because that is where all the sewer pipes end up now. It will still need a massive engineering construction in the same spot to be able to pump it somewhere else for treatment then back to the same spot to go out to sea, its madness. Laxey is a steep sides river valley, that is what chose the location of the plant, not the MUA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 33 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said: The chalets will have been chosen as the ideal spot because that is where all the sewer pipes end up now. It will still need a massive engineering construction in the same spot to be able to pump it somewhere else for treatment then back to the same spot to go out to sea, its madness. Laxey is a steep sides river valley, that is what chose the location of the plant, not the MUA Genuine question why would it need to come back to the existing outfall pipe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Happier diner said: Maybe, theoretically you could. Not a sensible way to do things though eh? Spend millions designing something based upon a plan and then make compulsory purchases. What sort of society do you want to live in. Hey I don't make the rules! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, finlo said: Genuine question why would it need to come back to the existing outfall pipe? Because we've already ruled out the Revolver, Dagger, Rope and Candlestick. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 56 minutes ago, finlo said: Genuine question why would it need to come back to the existing outfall pipe? A lot cheaper to use an existing pipe than to lay a new undersea pipe at a guess. The main thing in Laxey is that all the sewer pipes end up at the chalets site, that cannot be changed so that MUST be the location of a dirty big holding tank and MASSIVE PUMPS to pump it to the headlands. Apart from the electricity required it will be very difficult to isolate those pumps to stop vibrations throughout lower Laxey. This would not have been a problem if the treatment plant was on the site. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Maybe they could build a huge water driven wheel to pump the turds away rather than some modern nonsense. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 19 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said: A lot cheaper to use an existing pipe than to lay a new undersea pipe at a guess. The main thing in Laxey is that all the sewer pipes end up at the chalets site, that cannot be changed so that MUST be the location of a dirty big holding tank and MASSIVE PUMPS to pump it to the headlands. Apart from the electricity required it will be very difficult to isolate those pumps to stop vibrations throughout lower Laxey. This would not have been a problem if the treatment plant was on the site. What I was alluding to was if the treatment plant was several miles away could the treated effluent not be discharged closer to the plant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) Dave, a good idea but maybe a turbine would be more efficient, but of course it would take at least three years to build it and it would be a completely new untried design requiring many, many, experts'. Edited March 20, 2021 by doc.fixit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, finlo said: What I was alluding to was if the treatment plant was several miles away could the treated effluent not be discharged closer to the plant? Have you ever designed. Sea outfall down a cliff side. Do you think they come cheap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Just now, Happier diner said: Have you ever designed. Sea outfall down a cliff side. Do you think they come cheap? But we don't know where the plant is going yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, finlo said: But we don't know where the plant is going yet! Well given that Laxey is at the bottom of a steep valley it's going to have to go up a big hill and then find its way down again. Baldrine maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Just FWIW here's a pic of Coverack's plant. Coverack - Google Maps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 50 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said: Maybe they could build a huge water driven wheel to pump the turds away rather than some modern nonsense. Stick a load of 6 inch nails on the egde of the water buckets it will even sort through the wet wipes and johnnies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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