Douglas2020 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 17 hours ago, snowman said: Loganair ending Heathrow. Last flight 10 Aug. Government subsidy run out ? With it now being impossible to fly to London, do a day's work & return on the same day.... or more importantly come from London to Isle of Man and do the same, we'll lose more companies to Jersey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Douglas2020 said: With it now being impossible to fly to London, do a day's work & return on the same day.... or more importantly come from London to Isle of Man and do the same, we'll lose more companies to Jersey. I don't think losing people to Jersey is the issue like it once was. What we need to accept is that a lot of people are moving here to embrace a remote working world and those same people will - at times - need to commute to offices and clients in cities, London being an important one. The Island has successfully attracted a lot of younger movers for a change in the last 12 months (some 1200 I recall the number being) and ability to connect being more important than ever going forward. Loss of Dublin a big issue too. Edited July 28, 2021 by NoTailT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: Sour grapes from a certain corner then? A few corners and a political mess. But tenders can't have the same panel again when this happens, so no idea who will sit on the new panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I wonder when they made the decision? I booked a through flight with BA on Monday the first and last sectors being Loganiar IOM/LHR/IOM 🤬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, Joe said: I wonder when they made the decision? I booked a through flight with BA on Monday the first and last sectors being Loganiar IOM/LHR/IOM 🤬 I often found it was cheaper to book the Loganair Heathrow flights on BA website than Loganairs own, forgetting connecting flights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, NoTailT said: Which is a 65% load factor on a Loganair E145 based on 28 flights in the month (think its actually less) and at their fares I imagine they're just about covering their nut before any subsidies or support come in to play. When I used it, it was ATR 42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, snowman said: When I used it, it was ATR 42 So even better load factors and profitability then!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) Loganair have issued a statement and cited funding withdrawn by IOMG EDIT to add link https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/loganair-to-drop-unviable-isle-of-man-heathrow-route Edited July 28, 2021 by snowman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, NoTailT said: So even better load factors and profitability then!! Probably because a daily commute to London isn't in the Active Travel plan. Nor is it exactly part of the five-year climate change plan. At least not until we have electric aircraft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas2020 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, snowman said: Loganair have issued a statement and cited funding withdrawn by IOMG EDIT to add link https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/loganair-to-drop-unviable-isle-of-man-heathrow-route BA have had a message on their page talking about restarting City flights in 2022 for a while, though I don't have any great confidence in it happening. Flights to Isle Of Man (IOM) | Book now with British Airways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Paper shifting, conferences, internet working, working from home, discussions, conversations, designing, predicting, lawmaking, arguing, group thinks. Doesn't anyone in the Western world actually produce anything physically tangible any more? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 26 minutes ago, snowman said: Loganair have issued a statement and cited funding withdrawn by IOMG EDIT to add link https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/loganair-to-drop-unviable-isle-of-man-heathrow-route Another strong arm attempt by Loganair to the Gov then I see.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, NoTailT said: I don't think losing people to Jersey is the issue like it once was. What we need to accept is that a lot of people are moving here to embrace a remote working world and those same people will - at times - need to commute to offices and clients in cities, London being an important one. The Island has successfully attracted a lot of younger movers for a change in the last 12 months (some 1200 I recall the number being) and ability to connect being more important than ever going forward. Loss of Dublin a big issue too. What’s your source for evidence of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 30 minutes ago, snowman said: Loganair have issued a statement and cited funding withdrawn by IOMG EDIT to add link https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/loganair-to-drop-unviable-isle-of-man-heathrow-route But good news on the increase in rotations with MAN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Twitch said: What’s your source for evidence of this? Enterprise data, can't remember where it was published. But based on work permits/immigration stuff. Also goes a long way to explain the housing issue right now. Edited July 28, 2021 by NoTailT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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