Banker Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 51 minutes ago, Cypman said: Chris Thomas talked around a lot of issues this morning, including aircraft safety on a number of occasions, I hope that is or does not become an issue. Most of the current issues would appear be be related to inaction or poor planning in the past. What we need immediately is action to resolve the problems and not endless management speak. A lot of the issues can only be resolved by more money for staff, improvements etc however at same time health wants more money, education wants more, civil servants & teachers want inflation pay rises & the public want subsidy for heating, higher benefits etc. Where is the money coming from as no one wants tax rises either? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatnonsence Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, Banker said: A lot of the issues can only be resolved by more money for staff, improvements etc however at same time health wants more money, education wants more, civil servants & teachers want inflation pay rises & the public want subsidy for heating, higher benefits etc. Where is the money coming from as no one wants tax rises either? What about the huge sum of money splashed out for Covid vaccination hub at the airport total waste of tax payers money and no visible sign of it now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Nellie said: Exactly. I was surprised that Chris Thomas connected the 'resilience' issue to the development of a 'masterplan'. I would have thought that the 'masterplan' will be a medium term, aspirational document, covering routes, airline mix, passenger numbers, travel experience, operational effectiveness, financial performance, sustainable recruitment etc. Ensuring that the Airport has the 'resilience' to know whether, or not, it can open tomorrow, is a matter that needs resolving now, or at least within (say) 30/60 days. It shouldn't be getting tangled up with medium term planning. Spot on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 We've had masterplan after masterplan, we've never had anyone capable of either realism or the ability to make things happen ! Long term aspirational bullshit will not sort the current shitshow ! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 6 hours ago, Whatnonsence said: What about the huge sum of money splashed out for Covid vaccination hub at the airport total waste of tax payers money and no visible sign of it now. Drop in the ocean compared to amounts required now eg £18m for health backlog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 2 hours ago, asitis said: We've had masterplan after masterplan, we've never had anyone capable of either realism or the ability to make things happen ! Long term aspirational bullshit will not sort the current shitshow ! A masterplan is no good unless you have a master. The money spent on the vax centre is a bit of a red herring for the airport, but highly indicative of government as a whole. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Just now, Gladys said: A masterplan is no good unless you have a master... Indeed, but first you have to have a plan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxfisherman Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Plans go wrong, even if they are masterplans. If you don't have a plan, it cannot go wrong. Thus, logically, plans are doomed to fail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 The reason you have a plan is because it's better to have a plan than not to have plan. Simples... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 20 minutes ago, P.K. said: The reason you have a plan is because it's better to have a plan than not to have plan. Simples... A plan is only as good as those implementing it . And thats where it goes horribly wrong . 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english zloty Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Numbnuts said: A plan is only as good as those implementing it . And thats where it goes horribly wrong . As long as it’s both smart and SMART 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/airport-not-always-to-blame-for-issues/ Sloping shoulders brigade again. I wish someone would ask that (person who cannot turn pancakes in a pan) Pugh why he's allowed 03 / 21 to be closed by inaction ! At least one London City has been lost by the closure of that runway ! FFS it's like Billy Smarts ! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 19 minutes ago, asitis said: https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/airport-not-always-to-blame-for-issues/ Sloping shoulders brigade again. I wish someone would ask that (person who cannot turn pancakes in a pan) Pugh why he's allowed 03 / 21 to be closed by inaction ! At least one London City has been lost by the closure of that runway ! FFS it's like Billy Smarts ! It rather pathetic really, a failing part of IOMG being given the oxygen of publicity, and a platform to try to deflect the blame. Yes, I am prepared to give the new airport director a chance, but I’m not prepared to listen to Chris Thomas and his excuses anymore. He is in charge - the buck stops with him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Mainwaring Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, asitis said: https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/airport-not-always-to-blame-for-issues/ Sloping shoulders brigade again. I wish someone would ask that (person who cannot turn pancakes in a pan) Pugh why he's allowed 03 / 21 to be closed by inaction ! At least one London City has been lost by the closure of that runway ! FFS it's like Billy Smarts ! When and why did it close? I landed on 21 only 3 weeks ago Edited October 14, 2022 by Capt_Mainwaring Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamon Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Nothing wrong with the runway itself. Just yet another example of mismanagement. This time within ATC. The NOTAM states: Q)EGTT/QFALC/IV/NBO/A/000/999/5405N00437W005 B)2210010515 C)2210312045 E)RWY 03/21 CLOSED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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