Mikimoto Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 So EZY9854 should be subject to compo if it's 3 hours+ late and not due to the weather, right? Of COURSE it's currently scheduled as leaving 2 hrs 54 mins late 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Mikimoto said: So EZY9854 should be subject to compo if it's 3 hours+ late and not due to the weather, right? Of COURSE it's currently scheduled as leaving 2 hrs 54 mins late 😆 Compo is based on arrival time anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Money would be better spent relocating the Airport to the North of the Islahd & building a facility fit for purpose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestboy Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Nom de plume said: Money would be better spent relocating the Airport to the North of the Islahd & building a facility fit for purpose. How much money do you envisage that would cost?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, forestboy said: How much money do you envisage that would cost?? Well, I’d be sacking off the horse trams, MER & steam trains for a start. A reliable airport & frequent air service is an absolute must. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) I have had an answer about the use of EGNOS to allow for GPS approaches to be flown to CAT1 minima (LPV200). You may recall that Jersey have an arrangement with the EU to use EGNOS, whilst we and the UK don’t. I have been advised that so far as the IOM is concerned, we are likely lumped in with the rest of the UK regarding EGNOS, as IOM airspace lies within one of the two UK flight information regions, or FIRs. Apparently, there is pressure for the UK to sign up for the service again, and they (the UK) have commissioned a company to do a cost benefit analysis of EGNOS use. That report came out firmly on the side of it being a nett benefit. https://www.oxera.com/insights/reports/the-value-for-money-for-a-temporary-reinstatement-of-egnos/ The issue is actually over a legal indemnity - perhaps that is something we could go solo with, rather than wait for the UK? Edited March 21, 2023 by madmanxpilot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, madmanxpilot said: I have had an answer about the use of EGNOS to allow for GPS approaches to be flown to CAT1 minima (LPV200). You may recall that Jersey have an arrangement with the EU to use EGNOS, whilst we and the UK don’t. I have been advised that so far as the IOM is concerned, we are likely lumped in with the rest of the UK regarding EGNOS, as IOM airspace lies within one of the two UK flight information regions, or FIRs. Apparently, there is pressure for the UK to sign up for the service again, and they (the UK) have commissioned a company to do a cost benefit analysis of EGNOS use. That report came out firmly on the side of it being a nett benefit. https://www.oxera.com/insights/reports/the-value-for-money-for-a-temporary-reinstatement-of-egnos/ The issue is actually over a legal indemnity - perhaps that is something we could go solo with, rather than wait for the UK? Legal indemnity is what delayed our COVID jab rollout. I wouldn't expect us to be any quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, NoTailT said: Legal indemnity is what delayed our COVID jab rollout. I wouldn't expect us to be any quicker. The sooner the process starts, the sooner it’ll be in place. I’m not confident that those responsible for such things here have the nouse to appreciate the benefits of it all. I just hope that the recent (avoidable) carnage at the airport may be a pivot point and that serious questions will be asked about where we are and how we got here, and importantly, how we can fix it. Edited March 21, 2023 by madmanxpilot 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 28 minutes ago, madmanxpilot said: The sooner the process starts, the sooner it’ll be in place. I’m not confident that those responsible for such things here have the nouse to appreciate the benefits of it all. I just hope that the recent (avoidable) carnage at the airport may be a pivot point and that serious questions will be asked about where we are and how we got here, and importantly, how we can fix it. I hope you will do all you can to lobby hard for such changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, madmanxpilot said: I have had an answer about the use of EGNOS to allow for GPS approaches to be flown to CAT1 minima (LPV200). You may recall that Jersey have an arrangement with the EU to use EGNOS, whilst we and the UK don’t. I have been advised that so far as the IOM is concerned, we are likely lumped in with the rest of the UK regarding EGNOS, as IOM airspace lies within one of the two UK flight information regions, or FIRs. Apparently, there is pressure for the UK to sign up for the service again, and they (the UK) have commissioned a company to do a cost benefit analysis of EGNOS use. That report came out firmly on the side of it being a nett benefit. https://www.oxera.com/insights/reports/the-value-for-money-for-a-temporary-reinstatement-of-egnos/ The issue is actually over a legal indemnity - perhaps that is something we could go solo with, rather than wait for the UK? Well, with Jersey having an arrangement there is at least a precedent which should count in our favour? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Nom de plume said: Well, I’d be sacking off the horse trams, MER & steam trains for a start. That would reduce the lucrative retirement employment opportunities for previously sacked-off Directors of it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 3 hours ago, madmanxpilot said: I’m not confident that those responsible for such things here have the nouse to appreciate the benefits of it all They won't ask people with knowledge of these things (such as yourself), only people who say what they want to hear ! We have spent millions at the airport on imo bad advice, bad legislation interpretation, and directors uninterested in running the facility we have, but with lots of interest in making new facilities. I don't think the new guy has a clue either of what is important, which again imo is simple i.e. enabling aircraft to land here and getting bums on seats as quickly and pleasantly as possible ! If people aren't delayed and there are services available most of them won't give a toss about the perfume shop or whether Costa makes soy lattes ! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, asitis said: I don't think the new guy has a clue That is where your post should of begun and stopped 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 17 minutes ago, asitis said: I don't think the new guy has a clue either of what is important, which again imo is simple i.e. enabling aircraft to land here and getting bums on seats as quickly and pleasantly as possible ! Oh, I think he does have a clue. He's bullshitted his way into a very lucrative employment where those around him (and those who employed him) will hang onto his every word like it's mannah from heaven and won't question his thoughts or what he wants implemented, regardless of its actual worth or cost. A little like his predecessor. In fact, very like his predecessor. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebushy Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 3 hours ago, madmanxpilot said: The sooner the process starts, the sooner it’ll be in place. I’m not confident that those responsible for such things here have the nouse to appreciate the benefits of it all. I just hope that the recent (avoidable) carnage at the airport may be a pivot point and that serious questions will be asked about where we are and how we got here, and importantly, how we can fix it. You haven't heard of Professor Ashford then? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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