NoTailT Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, IOM said: I have no intention of submitting an FOI . You have been consistently saying it was multi millions and quoting the pandemic costs which agreed were £4.5m . I note you have never referenced the £44m for the runway extension which was effectively a ‘subsidy’ to EasyJet but I know that does not really suit your narrative. You and your narratives, you do make me laugh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 53 minutes ago, NoTailT said: Submit your own FOI. Im reliably told the subsidy so far has been £1.7mln, excluding the £4.5mln during the pandemic. You won't get far with an FoI. Someone asked about a year ago (ref:2694889): "I seek a weekly breakdown of the total amount paid to underwrite Loganair's Heathrow route since it was introduced in May, up to October 4 2022. The Department for Enterprise said it did not hold this information, but said the DoI might." While our aim is to provide information whenever possible, in this instance the information is exempt from disclosure under section 30 of the Act as disclosure would be likely to prejudice the commercial interests of the Department of Infrastructure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 (edited) Wind kicked up a fair bit and theres an easyjet struggling down this way, had a few goes at landing Edited September 27, 2023 by TheTeapot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Looked it up, its given up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Wind kicked up a far bit and theres an easyjet struggling down this way, had a few goes at landing He's on his way back to Belfast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 15 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Wind kicked up a fair bit and theres an easyjet struggling down this way, had a few goes at landing He only made two actual approaches. More than that would be pretty unusual. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Nellie said: He only made two actual approaches. More than that would be pretty unusual. Fair enough, I was listening to the wind and the engines broke through. Its got pretty wild gusts over the last hour. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 26 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Fair enough, I was listening to the wind and the engines broke through. Its got pretty wild gusts over the last hour. generally the rules say make 2 attempts to land , if its not possible then call it a day and divert somewhere else read the investigation into manx 2 air accident in Ireland , 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Omobono said: generally the rules say make 2 attempts to land , if its not possible then call it a day and divert somewhere else read the investigation into manx 2 air accident in Ireland , There are no actual rules per se regarding the number of approaches you can make, but you are right that the normal accepted policy of the airlines is that if you haven’t managed to get in on the second attempt, unless there is a significant improvement in conditions expected, then you should call it a day and divert. Regarding that awful day in Cork, they should never have made any approaches at all as the visibility was below the legal minima at all times. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/loganair-to-take-on-flights-to-manchester-641254 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swoopy2110 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Andy Onchan said: https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/loganair-to-take-on-flights-to-manchester-641254 Not so quick to release media when they cancel their own Manchester flights though as they have done with mine in February, and dropped down to 1 per day on some days of the week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOM Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 38 minutes ago, swoopy2110 said: Not so quick to release media when they cancel their own Manchester flights though as they have done with mine in February, and dropped down to 1 per day on some days of the week. Only the same as EasyJet. All airlines will drive out media releases about new flights it’s called ………. marketing ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Andy Onchan said: https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/loganair-to-take-on-flights-to-manchester-641254 I didn't even notice they'd dropped it. When did it stop being twice daily? Last time I flew Loganair to Manchester it was. It's not really a rescue mission. easy was unfortunately damaging Loganairs Manchester loads badly, so a neutral recovery. Edited September 28, 2023 by NoTailT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 I spent some time yesterday looking at what was the average number of pax per flight on each route in July, based on the punctuality figures already released and the Airport's pax figures: Airport Carrier Flts Pax Aver BFS easyJet 18 1905 106 BRS easyJet 18 2614 145 LGW easyJet 81 11422 141 LPL easyJet 95 8859 93 MAN easyJet 60 6352 106 DUB Emerald 78 3638 47 BHD Emerald 54 1344 25 BHX Loganair 51 1845 36 EDI Loganair 34 1145 34 LHR Loganair 62 3424 55 LPL Loganair 102 3510 34 LCY Loganair 67 2124 32 MAN Loganair 104 3520 34 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: I spent some time yesterday looking at what was the average number of pax per flight on each route in July, based on the punctuality figures already released and the Airport's pax figures: Airport Carrier Flts Pax Aver BFS easyJet 18 1905 106 BRS easyJet 18 2614 145 LGW easyJet 81 11422 141 LPL easyJet 95 8859 93 MAN easyJet 60 6352 106 DUB Emerald 78 3638 47 BHD Emerald 54 1344 25 BHX Loganair 51 1845 36 EDI Loganair 34 1145 34 LHR Loganair 62 3424 55 LPL Loganair 102 3510 34 LCY Loganair 67 2124 32 MAN Loganair 104 3520 34 They're all abysmal. Across the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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