NoTailT Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, IOM said: So are you saying just leave it to EasyJet or you want closed skies ? Sorry I just don’t understand what you all think is the solution other than the island being operated by EasyJet only but maybe I am missing something. Loganair need to learn to compete on the open market, rather than relying on subsidies to do so. If they can't compete, they should go away. Prime example: yesterday, Loganair combined 2x Manchester and 1x Liverpool flights. 48 passengers total coming to us across the 3 on Loganair. Easyjet Manchester, 148 passengers. Easyjet Liverpool, practically full. Same with cancellations to London City and combining flights. Its making the Island and the airline look pretty stupid. Open skies means open market. Let the market figure it out, don't prop up insanity. Edited May 9, 2022 by NoTailT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, 0bserver said: New parking charges. I don't know how much it used to be. But that seems pretty expensive. What's the difference between left and right columns? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, IOM said: So are you saying just leave it to EasyJet or you want closed skies ? Sorry I just don’t understand what you all think is the solution other than the island being operated by EasyJet only but maybe I am missing something. I don't profess to know the solutions, I thought we had consummate professionals to make those decisions. No I don't think easy jet are a good thing, not with our market size. I agree Easy are good for the consumer, but the point I was making is consumers on cheaper seats on easy, are paying via taxes for the empty seats on Loganair ! It is this dichotomy that makes no sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, 0bserver said: New parking charges. Starting next week https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/paid-parking-returns-at-airport/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 RingGO APP: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=368249038669813&set=a.294226902738694 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 I get the impression that things are beginning to stir at the airport ! maybe some asses have been kicked. Something that has needed fixing for 6 months has been fixed this afternoon, it took 30 minutes ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-in-man Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Banker said: Starting next week https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/paid-parking-returns-at-airport/ Plus the RingGo fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Here's the official press release (Manx Radio removed the Tim Glover quotes to protect the sensitive or easily bored). It does say: Anyone who doesn’t have a smartphone can pay by calling a number and providing a card payment over the phone, sending a text message, paying online or by asking for assistance at the information desk inside the Isle of Man Airport building. Though there's nothing to explain exactly how to do these things and of course the non-app users are likely to be the least tech-savvy. The whole thing looks like a dog's breakfast and you suspect enforcement will be difficult and confused at best. The priority is presumably being seen to do something, rather than having something that works well. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 There is no description of what penalty will apply if you exceed the time booked. If there is no penalty, you might as well wait until you get back before paying what is necessary. What if you are close to landing, but once again the aircraft turns around and goes back to Gatwick - and your park time has expired. It is not possible to update the app while in flight. This is a mess. It looks like some people have had a bad experience with RingGo - maybe that is why the gov. like it: https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.myringgo.com?msclkid=1d527ebacfb211ec88c6085e48b8fd0c 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOM Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 50 minutes ago, NoTailT said: Loganair need to learn to compete on the open market, rather than relying on subsidies to do so. If they can't compete, they should go away. Prime example: yesterday, Loganair combined 2x Manchester and 1x Liverpool flights. 48 passengers total coming to us across the 3 on Loganair. Easyjet Manchester, 148 passengers. Easyjet Liverpool, practically full. Same with cancellations to London City and combining flights. Its making the Island and the airline look pretty stupid. Open skies means open market. Let the market figure it out, don't prop up insanity. So given EasyJet marginally cost to the Isle of Man as it’s easy to add on against longer routings and fully optimise crew time the market as you so indicate will leave you with EasyJet. And then once that’s happened the frequency will drop and fare prices will rise because they have no competition as happened with London . If you want that then fine prepare for lower visitor numbers and lower business investment on island . Then prepare to pay more in tax . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emesde Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Looking at the fees it seems £60 is the maximum. Does this mean you can book your car in for 365 days for £60 If you are a regular user that sounds a good deal. Just over a pound a week. They obviously aren't investing in "anpr" cameras to clock cars in and out. I guess they have to have extra staff to monitor disc and check that cars haven't overstayed but hey ho I'm sure this is a well planned operation that will soon pull back the half million pounds they have lost in the last 13 months by not having any system in place🤔 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 hour ago, NoTailT said: I don't know how much it used to be. But that seems pretty expensive. What's the difference between left and right columns? Short stay and long stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emesde Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Just looked at the reviews on their app page. Looks pretty good 3 % liked it and only 97% thought it was a really bad system. Obvious to see why this one was chosen then after a year of in depth research. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) But its fairly good solution and we only have it on trial ! . So thats okay then. Edited May 9, 2022 by Numbnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 I've used it. Charged me for parking, Ringo fee and two text messages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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