IOM Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, swoopy2110 said: LGW shows as delayed until 13.45 on the airport website. Now 14.38 and it's still not left with no update being provided on the website. Perhaps the website can't be updated from the office either! I guess the airport has been a complete mess this morning. At least is appears EasyJet are trying to operate the flight rather than cancel . Loganair have had to cancel a few but I think that’s so they can operate the afternoon and evening schedule as normal as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bees Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Banker said: Why do Loganair just cancel everything, surely the planes & crew are at airport, why can’t they just do a Liverpool flight & Birmingham this afternoon . Easyjet Gatwick going albeit 4 hours delayed Because they're robots? Seems to me that there aren't people who sort things out anymore, just robots and computers and noone is allowed to use any intiative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Roxanne said: There’s a huge amount to unpick in that. Unpick or unpack...? 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-in-man Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Who remembers this? Maybe Manx kippers set off the nuclear detectors these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Banker said: Why do Loganair just cancel everything, surely the planes & crew are at airport, why can’t they just do a Liverpool flight & Birmingham this afternoon . Easyjet Gatwick going albeit 4 hours delayed Maybe it’s down to pilot a crew hours regulations if they’ve been sat around since 6am? Logan don’t have the size and resilience of EasyJet ( normal times EZY at any rate ), no spare planes or staff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 LGW issue now resolved, but problems for a couple of hours this afternoon. A technical air traffic control issue is causing delays to both departures and arrivals at Gatwick this afternoon. The airport is working closely with NATS to get the issue resolved as quickly as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-in-man Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, John Wright said: Maybe it’s down to pilot a crew hours regulations if they’ve been sat around since 6am? Logan don’t have the size and resilience of EasyJet ( normal times EZY at any rate ), no spare planes or staff. EZY have no spare planes. They only earn money when they are flying. Planes come here from Gatwick, before that the plane comes from Spain in the evenings. Gatwick - Man - Gatwick - Spain - Gatwick - Man - Gatwick - and repeat next day. Get delayed in one spot for an hour means everything else is late. Have a plane landing in 3 airports before it even get to depart for here in the evening, could mean it will be 3 hours late getting here. So .. It'll just get binned. The Friday one in TT was picked to fly elsewhere from Gatwick (Murcia) - not here. It was 3 hours plus late before it even left Gatwick for Spain - and was simply shunted to another flight on it's return to Gatwick. This may have been because it was cheaper to pay the compensation for a few passengers flying from here, than pay the compensation for a fuller flight going elsewhere. Add to that the costs involved in keeping Ronaldsway open for a late flight and subsequent departure to ensure the plane is in the right spot for the next day. Baggage at Ronaldsway is also a joke. They keep trollies of baggage coming off any flight until the plane is loaded with departure baggage. Only then is it tugged round to the reclaim area as there is not enough handlers employed. The new bloke has his work cut out for him when he gets here. I doubt he will last long. Edited June 16, 2022 by x-in-man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevster Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Numbnuts said: Probably the one thats never working , they switched it on and it got to excited a threw a wobbler . I was under the impression that is was baggage destined for the hold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxweegie Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 minute ago, kevster said: I was under the impression that is was baggage destined for the hold It was, but this is Manx Forums, don't let facts get in the way of a good story! 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 14 minutes ago, x-in-man said: EZY have no spare planes. They only earn money when they are flying. Planes come here from Gatwick, before that the plane comes from Spain in the evenings. Gatwick - Man - Gatwick - Spain - Gatwick - Man - Gatwick - and repeat next day. Get delayed in one spot for an hour means everything else is late. Have a plane landing in 3 airports before it even get to depart for here in the evening, could mean it will be 3 hours late getting here. So .. It'll just get binned. The Friday one in TT was picked to fly elsewhere from Gatwick - not here. It was 3 hours plus late before it even left Gatwick for Spain - and was simply shunted to another flight on it's return to Gatwick. This may have been because it was cheaper to pay the compensation for a few passengers flying from here, than pay the compensation for a fuller flight going elsewhere. Add to that the costs involved in keeping Ronaldsway open for a late flight and subsequent departure to ensure the plane is in the right spot for the next day. Baggage at Ronaldsway is also a joke. They keep trollies of baggage coming off any flight until the plane is loaded with departure baggage. Only then is it tugged round to the reclaim area as there is not enough handlers employed. The new bloke has his work cut out for him when he gets here. I doubt he will last long. You’ve rather missed the point and the current circumstances. They do have potential capacity due to having cancelled many flights because of airport problems. No, normally they wouldn’t have aircraft resilience, but they do have staff resilience. And it’s a balance between the lost revenue and compensation and rostering. They don’t want a plane and crew stuck here overnight, under any circumstances. That’s why they cancel evening flights. You’ll notice they’ve managed to change plane/crew roster to fly the delayed morning sectors today and they’ll accommodate its subsequent rostered flights.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-in-man Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 They don't have the staff either. Pilots or cabin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatnonsence Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 6 hours ago, Max Power said: Whatever it was the police must have thought it was capable of creating a huge explosion to have shut all the roads around the airport? I hope whoever packed whatever it was ended up with a severe bollocking! What about those inside the airport where were they evacuated too given the huge exclusion area around the airport? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Whatnonsence said: What about those inside the airport where were they evacuated too given the huge exclusion area around the airport? An American lady on MR said that they were herded onto the tarmac and waited over two hours standing there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Chris Thomas is promising a review into all aspects of today's mess. It does appear to be an overaction. If the Airport and the surrounding area get closed down for four hours because of one suspicious item, then it's surprising it doesn't happen more often. Either similar alarms have been ignored in the past or the plans are all or nothing. And of course if it had been a genuine explosive device, leaving passengers nearby suggest the plans aren't that effective. It does seem a bit odd that the first such alarm for a long time coincides so neatly with the arrival of a new Minister. Is someone at the Airport trying to throw their weight around - or just show how keen they are? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 It would seem to be another example of either a lack of an emergency response plan, or ignoring it if it exists. Surely the airport has a response plan to deal with such incidents? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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