ellanvannin2010 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, NoTailT said: Probably because it's still more expensive than their originaly easyJet Manchester tickets were!! But can’t they put in a claim to easyjet for the replacement flight?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 End of the day both Easy and Logan are poor choices in comparison to what we used to have with Flybe and 5 Manchesters, 3 Liverpools and for a time the 4 Gatwicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOM Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 minute ago, 0bserver said: End of the day both Easy and Logan are poor choices in comparison to what we used to have with Flybe and 5 Manchesters, 3 Liverpools and for a time the 4 Gatwicks. I don’t disagree with this I have always said EasyJet and another smaller operator ( albeit not many options in todays aviation world ) is the right mix and my posts support that unlike several people on here who simply believe EasyJet can do no wrong ! London was well served with a mix of EasyJet and BA Cityflyer to London City it would be great to see BA back on the island . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, 0bserver said: End of the day both Easy and Logan are poor choices in comparison to what we used to have with Flybe and 5 Manchesters, 3 Liverpools and for a time the 4 Gatwicks. I think that’s the crux. flybe was great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, IOM said: So let me get this right EasyJet have cancelled flights from Isle of Man to Manchester over the summer and Loganair continue to operate yet you are criticising them ? And you are the one that says I am biased in my opinion . I don’t think I have ever come across someone so blinkered and sycophantic but maybe I am missing something. ok hun. I could go on about how Manchester forms part of the PTS now etc etc, but I won’t bother because you’ll go for the ‘but it’s not underwritten!!’. Edited June 21, 2022 by NoTailT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, 0bserver said: End of the day both Easy and Logan are poor choices in comparison to what we used to have with Flybe and 5 Manchesters, 3 Liverpools and for a time the 4 Gatwicks. That was then..... this is now and the dynamics are absolutely not the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOM Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, NoTailT said: ok hun. I could go on about how Manchester forms part of the PTS now etc etc, but I won’t bother because you’ll go for the ‘but it’s not underwritten!!’. Firstly I don’t ever find the need to be patronising silly or use bad language as one poster did but then again I try to provide clear rationale and take a reasoned approach. Let’s face it you are obsessed by EasyJet and really don’t like Loganair for some reason that’s fair enough . I will remain of the view that the island is best served by a mix of operators ( particularly London ) with EasyJet coming out of Gatwick and another smaller operator ( whoever that might be ) providing a morning and evening service most likely out of London City . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: That was then..... this is now and the dynamics are absolutely not the same. But where is the problem? Let’s take one example: Flybe used to do at least 4 Manchesters per day. Now Loganair can barely fill 2, often flying half empty, with an easyJet flight on some not all days. (Soon to be suspended if not already) Is it because of fares? Is it just ‘covid’? Consumer confidence to spend on trips? Reduced business travel? Whats caused it and how do we fix it? Edited June 21, 2022 by NoTailT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 minute ago, IOM said: Firstly I don’t ever find the need to be patronising silly or use bad language as one poster did but then again I try to provide clear rationale and take a reasoned approach. Let’s face it you are obsessed by EasyJet and really don’t like Loganair for some reason that’s fair enough . I will remain of the view that the island is best served by a mix of operators ( particularly London ) with EasyJet coming out of Gatwick and another smaller operator ( whoever that might be ) providing a morning and evening service most likely out of London City . You are wrong and I think past pages show that most of us of sound understanding have read through you. Next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOM Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, NoTailT said: You are wrong and I think past pages show that most of us of sound understanding have read through you. Next. Clearly you find reasoned debate and opinions which don’t match yours hard to swallow . Anyone with an ounce of a brain can read my posts going back over a year to see I prefer a mixed model unlike you . For some reason you want to dismiss my opinion and close me down but for as long as this forum is for sharing views and opinions I will post mine . Happy flying and next ! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, NoTailT said: But where is the problem? Let’s take one example: Flybe used to do at least 4 Manchesters per day. Now Loganair can barely fill 2, often flying half empty, with an easyJet flight on some not all days. (Soon to be suspended if not already) Is it because of fares? Is it just ‘covid’? Consumer confidence to spend on trips? Reduced business travel? Whats caused it and how do we fix it? All of the above, probably. And we may not be able to fix it, at least for some time to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-in-man Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Move to the Isle of Man. Where the links are shit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Open Skies - where airlines can come and GO as they please. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 47 minutes ago, madmanxpilot said: Open Skies - where airlines can come and GO as they please. ‘Twas ever thus, even before Open Skies. In fact I’d venture we’ve had more stability of airlines since Open Skies, than before. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Attracting a lo-cost carrier to our level of passenger numbers was always going to be a gamble at best, and almost like all your eggs in one basket. Open Skies is farcical, as I agree is a sole operator, we need some halfway house. The real nonsense is subsidising empty seats on routes where the seats are empty because of the lo-cost carrier. Hopefully this new director has some common sense and commercial experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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