doc.fixit Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 I wouldn't go to London or it's satellites even if it was free. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOM Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, doc.fixit said: I wouldn't go to London or it's satellites even if it was free. You do realise that a lot of the business community who bring investment to the island live in London . And people have friends and family living in London the South East , Oxford and South coast how are they supposed to get here without strong connectivity ? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 25 minutes ago, IOM said: So you would like a once a day Ryanair service to Stansted one if the worst airports in Great Britain miles away from London ? And how else would you ensure the London market was served ? I would like a well thought out service the way we used to have Flybe Gatwick and Aer Arran London City. But that is beyond Tynwald and DOI. So if we're stuck with Open Skies then we may as well think 'fuck it' and get Ryanair in. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 14 hours ago, IOM said: You do realise that a lot of the business community who bring investment to the island live in London . And people have friends and family living in London the South East , Oxford and South coast how are they supposed to get here without strong connectivity ? Of course. Are you saying that those places and residents are more important than the rest of the UK? I said I would not go to those places, I gave no opinion about folk who do want to visit them. I gave that opinion because such a lot of folk seem to believe that civilised, intelligent life ceases above Watford gap. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 15 hours ago, 0bserver said: Because they're punctuality and reliability is second to none. I would rather have a predictable way off the island to London that isn't Loganair or Easyjet. Are you talking about Ryanair being punctual and reliable? Thats certainly not my experience and when you factor in other elements of their “customer experience” they would be the airline I would least want to use. Stansted is no great shakes either. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 15 hours ago, doc.fixit said: I wouldn't go to London or it's satellites even if it was free. Why not? There is quite a lot of good stuff going on in London (as indeed there is north of the Watford Gap) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Answered your own question there Voicey... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 15 hours ago, doc.fixit said: I wouldn't go to London or it's satellites even if it was free. When I worked in Castletown in the early 1980's, one day, I was sent to see an elderly customer, in their own home in Arbory Street. They were staggered that I 'commuted' from Douglas each day. They told me that they hadn't been to Douglas since before the War! Funny how your post brought that to mind! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Having worked and lived in the great metropolis for a few years I really couldn't understand why some folk actually enjoyed this lifestyle. My daughter is very metropolitan and lived in Dulwich for many years and now resides in Brighton and has done for the last ten years and my views haven't changed at all. The glitz and glitter and one upmanship and crowds and image worship do little to change my mind. Underneath it is the massive rate of homelessness, drug taking and crime which all the glitter fails to hide. As always it may be a lifestyle that some folk enjoy but without money, power or backing it's a dismal place. All this is my opinion and if folk like that lifestyle good for them but I don't and believe there is too much emphasis on London and the south as a destination. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, quilp said: Answered your own question there Voicey... Well you can enjoy the best of both worlds Like the good doctor I wouldn’t fancy living down there and I too think things are way too London/South East centric. But his words about homelessness, drug taking, crime et al could equally apply to Manchester But I’ve had quite a few good weekends in the smoke doing things you couldn’t do anywhere else. For example I have spent hours in Tate Modern and climbed up the O2 tent ( actually didn’t do the latter, but I could have done if I wanted). To deny yourself such experiences because you don’t like the area as a whole is akin to cutting off your nose to spite your face. Similarly I’m not over keen on the Scots but had a lovely time in Edinburgh a few years ago, going round the castle walking the old streets, enjoying the local cuisine etc. You shouldn’t write off a whole geographical area and it’s history, culture and attractions because you don’t like some of the characteristics of its populace. Edited July 24, 2022 by The Voice of Reason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOM Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 8 hours ago, doc.fixit said: Having worked and lived in the great metropolis for a few years I really couldn't understand why some folk actually enjoyed this lifestyle. My daughter is very metropolitan and lived in Dulwich for many years and now resides in Brighton and has done for the last ten years and my views haven't changed at all. The glitz and glitter and one upmanship and crowds and image worship do little to change my mind. Underneath it is the massive rate of homelessness, drug taking and crime which all the glitter fails to hide. As always it may be a lifestyle that some folk enjoy but without money, power or backing it's a dismal place. All this is my opinion and if folk like that lifestyle good for them but I don't and believe there is too much emphasis on London and the south as a destination. I understand you don’t like it and I am not suggesting everyone does everyone is different there is nothing wrong with that . My point is that it is a large market and therefore it’s important to have strong connections to it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Watch out, there's a random patroller about... https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/random-patrols-to-make-sure-people-are-paying-for-parking-to-start-at-ronaldsway/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, quilp said: Watch out, there's a random patroller about... https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/random-patrols-to-make-sure-people-are-paying-for-parking-to-start-at-ronaldsway/ There appears to be 4% not paying for their parking by any means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 It’s not the few freeloaders that are the problem. It is the loss of revenue to pay for the Ringo deal and now the expected additional labour costs of the patrols. I cannot believe a new barrier wouldn’t have been more cost effective and efficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 They don't mention the folk who don't use the car park at all now or the ones that use other parking agents. Is it 50% or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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