snowman Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Why would anyone want a British passport. If Amadeus has a German passport would the lady qualify for a German passport? Much more valuable than the xenophobic British one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 3 hours ago, John Wright said: Don't forget, Amadeus isn't British either. If Eris, woody2 and Rog had their way our Am would be in the same queue as his wife and be refused entry anyway And have their dinghy confiscated... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Costs a fortune now for all the stages you have to go through if from outside Europe , Phillipines etc. Probably around 3 k all in by the time you go through Visa interview and the actual visa . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
germann Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 That's just for the processing costs. Add an immigration lawyer's time (you only get one throw of the dice, so you have to roll a 6), plus a costly but ridiculously easy English language exam & knowledge of UK/IoM exam & you're looking at £4k easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_manx Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) On 8/10/2022 at 3:09 PM, Amadeus said: No. Philippines passport holder. IOM doesn’t give out residency cards so unless you bring all your home office paperwork every time you fly, you’re not going anywhere. Oh, and all the passengers from the other flight were just out ahead of us in the queue. With just one checkout counter open. What a total joke Loganair is. IOMG needs to get a grip on air travel or they can forget all their fantasy visitor targets. Unfortunately that's the reality of travel with isle of man issued visa / work permits. I have a few friends who are in a similar situation. They end up carrying all the paperwork in a file so that they don't have issues. The visa stamps issued in the IOM do not help . Its not easy for an immigration officer / airline employee from another country to clear someone for a flight to the UK with a visa stamp like this. No security features/ no photograph etc unless things have changed recently. Edited August 16, 2022 by mad_manx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 2 hours ago, snowman said: Why would anyone want a British passport. If Amadeus has a German passport would the lady qualify for a German passport? Much more valuable than the xenophobic British one Because a British one, less valuable as it may be after Brexit, is still 1000 x better than a Philippines one, and the German one, nice as it is, is also harder to get. Might also require time spent in the country, and as much as I like my passport, I don't want to live in the Heimatland anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 1 minute ago, mad_manx said: Unfortunately that's the reality of travel with isle of man issued visa / work permits. I have a few friends who are in a similar situation. They end up carrying all the paperwork in a file so that they don't have issues. The visa stamps issued in the IOM doesn't help . Its not easy for an immigration officer / airline employee to clear someone for a flight to the UK with a visa stamp like this. No security features/ no photograph etc. I'll be contacting IOMG about this. It's not good enough if we want people to move, work, and contribute to society here. At least give them a proper residency permit card. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, Amadeus said: I'll be contacting IOMG about this. It's not good enough if we want people to move, work, and contribute to society here. At least give them a proper residency permit card. do white british people have the same issues ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_manx Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Amadeus said: I'll be contacting IOMG about this. It's not good enough if we want people to move, work, and contribute to society here. At least give them a proper residency permit card. Another thing which often works is to travel on same airline every time . If they have cleared someone on a particular visa before and can see evidence of successful entry into the UK ( UK immigration stamp on arrival + the airline can check ) then its easier the second time. Would suggest carrying evidence of this for future travel like copy of eticket / boarding pass etc . Just out of curiosity was this her first time back to the UK with the visa I.e was the visa issued recently. A visa which has not been used to travel before is often treated as suspicious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_manx Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, WTF said: do white british people have the same issues ? There have been issues with isle of man issued British passports in the past like being denied entry to Romania. http://www.isleofman.com/News/details/25863/passport-shock-for-onchan-man Edited August 10, 2022 by mad_manx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 1 minute ago, mad_manx said: There have been issues with isle of man issued British passports in the past like being denied entry to Bulgaria . i meant trying to get residency here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_manx Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, WTF said: i meant trying to get residency here British citizens do not need to get residency permits for isle of man It's not needed.. There are many who are self employed and run a business. It's only a case of needing a work permit if the profession is not exempt from a work permit. There is no restriction on stay. Edited August 10, 2022 by mad_manx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 it may be easier for foreign nationals to get a uk residency thing then move here once they're british ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_manx Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, WTF said: it may be easier for foreign nationals to get a uk residency thing then move here once they're british ?? Not really. Residency and citizenship is different. You need a prolonged period of residency in the UK /IOM to apply for citizenship (with additional tests like life in the UK / English language etc)The process takes 6 + years (could be more now ) Also the residency permits etc for all those years are issued for 1 or 2 years or so at a time that need to be renewed ( more fees to the government ;-)) . I'm also not sure if the ones issued in the UK are valid here .. Edited August 10, 2022 by mad_manx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 8 hours ago, mad_manx said: Not really. Residency and citizenship is different. You need a prolonged period of residency in the UK /IOM to apply for citizenship (with additional tests like life in the UK / English language etc)The process takes 6 + years (could be more now ) Also the residency permits etc for all those years are issued for 1 or 2 years or so at a time that need to be renewed ( more fees to the government ;-)) . I'm also not sure if the ones issued in the UK are valid here .. i guess the harder it is to get residency here the better it could be for those daft enough to want to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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