IOM Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, Banker said: Liverpool flight now getting in at c10pm , lots of people who’ve been to various hospitals will be very tired with some distressed after being up since c5am Absolutely appalling a lot of those people travelling on the Liverpool flight will be patient transfers and therefore not very well of some sort . The last thing they need is an enforced delay and subsequent wait to get back to the island . It’s just not good enough . The Loganair team need to both put it right urgently and publically apologise. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 10 hours ago, NoTailT said: I've been on maybe just under a dozen Heathrow flights now and the loads have been improving, that's for sure. I've only flown City a handful of times and not for a while, so not sure on that one. July 22 stats show 2651 passengers on Heathrow. Assuming 1 flight per day, that's 42-43 passenger average in each direction, which definitely isn't break even, but must be close. City is 6 per week I think, showing at 2251 passengers which is 36 in each direction. I think that when the underwriting was announced, Allinson said that if 50 people were on each flight there’d be no subsidy. So, based on your numbers of around 40 per flight, presumably roughly 20% of the funds will be drawn down which would be c£800k. Some fairly big assumptions in that calculation though! Hopefully if new FlyBe pick up LHR that’ll take Loganair out of that part of the picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Nellie said: I think that when the underwriting was announced, Allinson said that if 50 people were on each flight there’d be no subsidy. So, based on your numbers of around 40 per flight, presumably roughly 20% of the funds will be drawn down which would be c£800k. Some fairly big assumptions in that calculation though! Hopefully if new FlyBe pick up LHR that’ll take Loganair out of that part of the picture. If they do, I imagine a similar public uproar by Loganair as they did on the south coast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestboy Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 32 minutes ago, Banker said: Liverpool flight now getting in at c10pm , lots of people who’ve been to various hospitals will be very tired with some distressed after being up since c5am Totally unacceptable. Time Government and new Airport Director took some action. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxfisherman Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 It's been cancelled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 it'd be a shorter thread if people posted the flights that were happening. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, manxfisherman said: It's been cancelled. Why as inward flight had landed is it early closing again ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Gatwick flight also canceled after inwards landed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxfisherman Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Dunno, but the gatwick flight landed and isnt going out again apparently, so somethings going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, manxfisherman said: Dunno, but the gatwick flight landed and isnt going out again apparently, so somethings going on. Assume ATC buggering off. now due to depart 1025 tomorrow morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Probably a number of wheelchair passengers & lots of others now having to stay overnight plus c200 that now have to leave airport here, chaos again 😩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOM Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, NoTailT said: Assume ATC buggering off. now due to depart 1025 tomorrow morning. At this stage we don’t know what the problem is other than both Loganair and EasyJet cannot keep to schedule! You are always so disparaging about Air traffic control I would recommend understanding it a little more before you are so quick to throw stones ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Just now, IOM said: At this stage we don’t know what the problem is other than both Loganair and EasyJet cannot keep to schedule! You are always so disparaging about Air traffic control I would recommend understanding it a little more before you are so quick to throw stones ! I do understand it. Duty hours. We’ve been over this a gazillion times before, back and forth, the IOM airport has very little operational resilience. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, Banker said: Probably a number of wheelchair passengers & lots of others now having to stay overnight plus c200 that now have to leave airport here, chaos again 😩 The Isle of Man Airport Scheduling, sponsored by the Isle of Man Hoteliers Association. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOM Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, NoTailT said: I do understand it. Duty hours. We’ve been over this a gazillion times before, back and forth, the IOM airport has very little operational resilience. So you understand the detailed working guidelines and practices involved in air traffic control do you ? All the rules and regulations of the CAA ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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