0bserver Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, NoTailT said: Hence its a terrible aircraft of choice for the Isle of Man. Good job Loganair don't have plans to have a shit load of them https://simpleflying.com/loganair-orders-atr-replace-saab-340s/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, NoTailT said: Hence its a terrible aircraft of choice for the Isle of Man. It's an accountants aircraft, probably one of the few capable of making sense with our passenger numbers ! Of course if we had anyone capable of running an airport and keeping basic function facilities open, i.e. a runway catering for the predominant SW gales at this time of year, things would be better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, 0bserver said: Good job Loganair don't have plans to have a shit load of them https://simpleflying.com/loganair-orders-atr-replace-saab-340s/ Its a terrible choice for the Scottish Islands too. As @asitis says, it's a bean counters aircraft. Cheap to buy/lease and cheap to run. Loganair awarded Heathrow slots will make it attractive to someone to buy now at a guess. Edited November 10, 2022 by NoTailT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, 0bserver said: Chris Thomas now says DOI won't be publishing the airport review they've had carried out. Makes you wonder just how bad it must be... critical safety failings is my guess. I think the report you're referring to was titled "Strategic Air Services Review" or something similar, and was more about the routes, services, airlines, subsidies and Open Skies vs Closed Skies. It wasn't about the day-to-day operational aspects of the Airport. So, very unlikely to involve 'critical safety failings' or anything similar. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Nellie said: I think the report you're referring to was titled "Strategic Air Services Review" or something similar, and was more about the routes, services, airlines, subsidies and Open Skies vs Closed Skies. It wasn't about the day-to-day operational aspects of the Airport. So, very unlikely to involve 'critical safety failings' or anything similar. So wheres the issue in publishing it then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 On 11/5/2022 at 12:28 PM, Ringy Rose said: It's an off-island franchisee. The problem is the lack of staff, whenever I've been there's been one poor soul on trying to do everything. Needless to say the queue is slow. Although I normally take my drink with me, often the flight is called (especially with EasyJet) and then we get to sit in that horrible room downstairs for 20 minutes before boarding. The problem I think is the fact that there is only one barista machine and really only one person can use it. I've never understood why the bar area is so big, I've never seen any more than three people waiting to get served for alcoholic and other drinks in an evening. If they swapped the areas over I'm sure they'd be able to get two barista machines working and give the service that the customer deserves for the price they pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, NoTailT said: So wheres the issue in publishing it then? Commercial sensitivity 🤣 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 11 hours ago, gerremonside said: ATR 72 crosswind limit is 28 kts wet, 35 kts dry. Wind 210° 28kt, gusting 38kt. Visibility 10km or more. Clouds few 1000ft, scattered 1400ft. Temperature 15°C, dew point 13°C. QNH 1012hPa. No significant change. Probably not going to be a good day today then ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamon Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Delays already showing for Liverpool flights. Its about time that Pugh & Cobb sorted the 03/21 issue out! A perfectly good runway has now been closed for over 5 weeks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Airmail plane couldn't get in today apparently, due to lack of runway options in the strong winds? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Airmail plane couldn't get in today apparently, due to lack of runway options in the strong winds? That’s 2/3 days in last week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 11 hours ago, Andy Onchan said: The problem I think is the fact that there is only one barista machine and really only one person can use it. I've never understood why the bar area is so big, I've never seen any more than three people waiting to get served for alcoholic and other drinks in an evening. If they swapped the areas over I'm sure they'd be able to get two barista machines working and give the service that the customer deserves for the price they pay. I've been there when there's been 20 people queuing at the bar. Friday early evening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Does make you wonder what the airport actually view as priorities doesn't it. At the moment securities mission appears to be, make everyones lives as difficult as possible, the rumours about new terminal abound, but we can't seem to grasp that 03/21 is vital for the next few months unless we want repeated days like today ! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, asitis said: Does make you wonder what the airport actually view as priorities doesn't it. At the moment securities mission appears to be, make everyones lives as difficult as possible, the rumours about new terminal abound, but we can't seem to grasp that 03/21 is vital for the next few months unless we want repeated days like today ! Last week they seemed to be testing every other person for explosives including me!! I did ask why we’re testing so many compared to Uk airports & guy said we’ve been told to. Other than the testing & basically making everyone strip off belts, shoes, coats etc it was fine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 18 minutes ago, Banker said: Last week they seemed to be testing every other person for explosives including me!! I did ask why we’re testing so many compared to Uk airports & guy said we’ve been told to. Other than the testing & basically making everyone strip off belts, shoes, coats etc it was fine! They lack any sort of proportionality, a good way to encourage customers back to the airport is to be as shitty as possible as this seems to be the recruitment policy of the jerks providing security ! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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