Airport.

[ellanvannin2010]

56 minutes ago, asitis said:

As much use as a one legged man at an arse kicking contest !

I take it that is a no then

[CallMeCurious]

2 hours ago, offshoremanxman said:

They won’t be much use around water then will they? 😂

Or an exposed site where the rain is often horizontal and laden with salt

🌨️🌬️

[Derek Flint]

1 hour ago, pongo said:

From the Ladybird book of daft management clichés.

Lt Gen David Morrison actually. 

[wingnut]

 

“The standard you walk past is the standard you set.

we had a similar problem at Police HQ”

Do you mean the prefabricated overpriced so called ‘custody suite”?

[The Voice of Reason]

13 hours ago, Beelzebub3 said:

. ps the Airport is a shithole also, been through a couple of times this last while and you would need an iron lung to get through the smokecloud at the entrance just an idea move it across the road to the ugly grassed plantless area and place a few shrubs and plants around to try and disguise it from the public eye.

Or we could be grown up and acknowledge that smoking is a legitimate activity and provide proper facilities for those who enjoy it, giving proper shelter and warmth given that they have been forced outside.

Would drinkers accept the same degree of second class facilities?
Maybe a drinking shelter open to the elements on one side?

Edited December 2, 2021 by The Voice of Reason

[alpha-acid]

2 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Or we could be grown up and acknowledge that smoking is a legitimate activity and provide proper facilities for those who enjoy it, giving proper shelter and warmth given that they have been forced outside.

Would drinkers accept the same degree of second class facilities?
Maybe a drinking shelter open to the elements on one side?

Apples and pears some one having a beer does not magically spread into any another person unlike smoke

[wingnut]

Responsible drinkers don’t force alcohol down the throat’s of unsuspecting people trying to gain access to a building they need to access. Smokers one the other hand do exactly that with their offensive and health damaging second hand smoke.

Put them as far away as possible I say and raise tax on cigarettes specifically to compensate for air pollution and cigarette butt removal.

[The Voice of Reason]

Just now, alpha-acid said:

Apples and pears some one having a beer does not magically spread into any another person unlike smoke

Let’s just say we accept the second hand smoke argument. All the more reason for providing proper facilities for smokers ( including proper ventilation etc) rather than treating them like lepers having to endure say freezing conditions in the winter. 
It’s not like they pay millions ( if not billions) of pounds in tax to have their odd indulgence

[The Voice of Reason]

Just now, wingnut said:

Responsible drinkers don’t force alcohol down the throat’s of unsuspecting people trying to gain access to a building they need to access. Smokers one the other hand do exactly that with their offensive and health damaging second hand smoke.

Put them as far away as possible I say and raise tax on cigarettes specifically to compensate for air pollution and cigarette butt removal.

How much more fucking tax do you expect them to pay?
Yes put smoking areas away from those who are so precious about it. aA few yards should do it I would suggest given the UK Government public service announcement about being seven steps from your back door

[The Voice of Reason]

4 minutes ago, wingnut said:

Responsible drinkers don’t force alcohol down the throat’s of unsuspecting people trying to gain access to a building they need to access. Smokers one the other hand do exactly that with their offensive and health damaging second hand smoke.

 

If it bothers you that much approach the airport building from the right hand side

[wingnut]

How about enough tax to pay the Health Service adequately for the treatment you will inevitably require? You know, the service that is already underfunded?

 

[quilp]

The tax on tobacco products is considerable. You could say the same about alcohol, or (eventually) cannabis products.

What about 'passive' alcohol-related problems? Many societal sub-groups surround problematic alcohol misuse, also costing the health (and social) services, directly and indirectly.

Not condoning smoking, just adding for balance. 

[wingnut]

There are passive related problems associated with many substances and behaviours, but note that I used the term “responsible drinkers” when I referred to that particular substance.
 

There’s nothing passive about smokers not caring about the health those who choose not to smoke when they are forced to run the gauntlet and inhale clouds of second hand smoke directly outside many public buildings and places of work. It isn’t just the airport. 

“approach the airport building from the right hand side” - wouldn’t make much of a meteorologist - is that smokers logic?

 

[Beelzebub3]

8 hours ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Or we could be grown up and acknowledge that smoking is a legitimate activity and provide proper facilities for those who enjoy it, giving proper shelter and warmth given that they have been forced outside.

Would drinkers accept the same degree of second class facilities?
Maybe a drinking shelter open to the elements on one side?

You can not die from "passive drinking" or inhale alcohol as far as I know.

[snowman]

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