forestboy Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, genericUserName said: Most people who are still young enough to be driving have either Google Pay or Apple Pay. It's just normal now. Rubbish. 3 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, genericUserName said: It would be barmy to introduce a system which required people to have another device. Also - I don't want it linked to my bank account such that it can directly deduct payments. I would much prefer to book and pay in advance and agree the transaction via a single existing payment system. To be clear - the app knows nothing of your bank or CC details. That's far more secure. What's wrong with having a system that logs you in and out? The method of payment is a different issue, could be online or one of those big bulky machines that takes a card, or even cash, as you pass through the exit. It just seems madly complicated with Ringo and it is not clear exactly what problem it solves. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha-acid Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 17 minutes ago, genericUserName said: Most people who are still young enough to be driving have either Google Pay or Apple Pay. It's just normal now. No it isn't are you still at school 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, Gladys said: What's wrong with having a system that logs you in and out? The method of payment is a different issue, could be online or one of those big bulky machines that takes a card, or even cash, as you pass through the exit. It just seems madly complicated with Ringo and it is not clear exactly what problem it solves. It solves the department having to support and administer the system. The payment goes directly Ringo uk, I wonder how that works chasing people who go over the time? Won't the debt be with Ringo and not doi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Sainsbury in Lancaster has an ANPR system which logs you in and out. If you spend £20 in store, you get 2 hours free parking. You get 30 minutes free anyway. There are machines by the door. You type in your reg number and it tells you what to pay. Very simple system. Most people gets QR code for free parking! The tag system that John Wright talks of is in most countries. USA was the first place I came across it about 20 years ago. Simple and effective. But then, hey! Why make something simple when you can unnecessarily drag technology into it! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, cissolt said: It solves the department having to support and administer the system. The payment goes directly Ringo uk, I wonder how that works chasing people who go over the time? Won't the debt be with Ringo and not doi? Well, it won't be a "user experience " problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ativa Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 23 minutes ago, alpha-acid said: No it isn't are you still at school Are you 110? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, cissolt said: The payment goes directly Ringo uk, I wonder how that works chasing people who go over the time? Won't the debt be with Ringo and not doi? There is information somewhere on the Ringo website. My recollection about complaints about incorrect charges is that Ringo simply collects the money and hands some of it to the client. If you have a complaint, you have to go to the operator of the car park and not to Ringo. So, jumping to conclusions, debt collection is down to the DoI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 28 minutes ago, cissolt said: It solves the department having to support and administer the system. The payment goes directly Ringo uk, I wonder how that works chasing people who go over the time? Won't the debt be with Ringo and not doi? RinGo collect payment as agents, maintain the app, take a large cut for the system and a percentage of cash/number of cars, then pay what’s left, if anything, to DoI. Non payers are direct responsibility of DoI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Gladys said: Would a number plate recognition based facility, like at the Bottleneck and Shaw's Brow, really be so difficult or expensive? As I understand it, the current system needs someone to go round and check that the cars parked there have paid. Just seems terribly unwieldy and inefficient. Totally agree. I top up my account every now and again for these two car parks ( at the pay station) and just drive in and out at will. The cost of parking deducted from my account. Although I do understand you can have a nil balance whereby your debit/ credit card is charged for the cost of your stay. So why on earth not use this system at at the airport instead of all this dicking about, having to put more credit on this Ringo crap if your flights delayed or whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, genericUserName said: It would be barmy to introduce a system which required people to have another device. Also - I don't want it linked to my bank account such that it can directly deduct payments. I would much prefer to book and pay in advance and agree the transaction via a single existing payment system. To be clear - the app knows nothing of your bank or CC details. That's far more secure. It’s one device, lasts 5 years, it stays in your car. You have an account. You can have multiple devices linked to an account. The charges are consolidated monthly and you are invoiced. The tag doesn’t have you billing information or bank/card info. Its the ease, not having to get out of the car, not having to find a PayStation, fiddle with your cash, card, or mobile device payment system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Cambon said: Sainsbury in Lancaster has an ANPR system which logs you in and out. If you spend £20 in store, you get 2 hours free parking. You get 30 minutes free anyway. There are machines by the door. You type in your reg number and it tells you what to pay. Very simple system. Most people gets QR code for free parking! There's a Sainsbury's with a similar system near to where my parents live in the south of England. The old man tells me it worked well for a couple of weeks after it was introduced, until everybody caught on to the fact that they do bugger all about it however long you stay. Most people just park there as long as they want, regardless of whether they're using the store, with complete impunity. Apparently the super market know and don't care. It brings in enough money to make a profit and it isn't worthwhile chase Ng offenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said: There's a Sainsbury's with a similar system near to where my parents live in the south of England. The old man tells me it worked well for a couple of weeks after it was introduced, until everybody caught on to the fact that they do bugger all about it however long you stay. Most people just park there as long as they want, regardless of whether they're using the store, with complete impunity. Apparently the super market know and don't care. It brings in enough money to make a profit and it isn't worthwhile chase Ng offenders. It won’t be managed by Sainsbury’s. Somewhere on the sign will be details. It’s usually parking eye that supermarkets sub it out to. They're persistent, normally. There are always lots of questions on Lancaster sites about charge notices and pre action letters and do you have pay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swoopy2110 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, genericUserName said: Most people who are still young enough to be driving have either Google Pay or Apple Pay. It's just normal now. Yup. I've used RingGo at the airport a few times now. I don't understand the uproar about it. Works fine for me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StCatherine Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Did anyone else see the picture of Cobb grinning madly with a fake plane ticket and a few Spanish flags on Facebook the other day for the Malaga launch ? Seems to have vanished already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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