Two-lane Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 21 minutes ago, Ringy Rose said: Ground handling service, including the steps and baggage, is Menzies, not the airport. The airport management manages the airport - including the sub-contractors. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, JessTickle said: I was on the delayed IOM - MAN EasyJet flight on Friday evening. We were told that the flight would be taking off 80 minutes late only once we had been transferred to the passenger holding pen down stairs. This obviously caused carnage as people weren't prepared to be stuck down there for over an hour with no access to any refreshment and with only one toilet so the vast majority just went back upstairs. This resulted in everyone needing to be scanned to board for a second time. What I assume was a Menzies rep absolved themselves and EJ of any responsibility and firmly passed the buck to ATC. This continued on boarding and again mid flight and landing with the Captain providing the same information that it all the fault of ATC. One little snippet he told the full flight was that the issue with the IOM ATC was that they only had one controller that was working and that there had been two but this other controller had been suspended from work. No idea if this is true or not but that is what EJ are telling people. Interestingly when we arrived in the departures lounge the flight was showing it was delayed by 30 minutes. This was subsequently removed and changed to it being on time. We tracked the plane coming in and it was definitely already late - it didn't land on the IOM until the time it was due to take off. It then missed the ATC open slot to take off so was delayed further. It’s a bloody shambles down there - but Menzies / EJ are not giving factual Edited June 20, 2023 by Numbnuts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Numbnuts said: Edited June 20, 2023 by asitis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 hour ago, asitis said: Hooray someones alliterated the problem ! Out of interest, do you know, does the guy in charge of ATC actually roll his sleeves up, get stuck in, and do some shifts, or is he above that sort of menial stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamon Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Plenty to say about himself on Linkedin! Interesting that, under education, he includes MScAviation Safety Management, Risk and Regulation 2022 - 2024 Looking at the dates, I assume that he's not yet got an MSc but is on a distance learning course? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Nellie said: Out of interest, do you know, does the guy in charge of ATC actually roll his sleeves up, get stuck in, and do some shifts, or is he above that sort of menial stuff? Unlike previous incumbents of the post, he’s not a qualified civilian controller, and therefore cannot control aircraft here. 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
germann Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 21 minutes ago, madmanxpilot said: Unlike previous incumbents of the post, he’s not a qualified civilian controller, and therefore cannot control aircraft here. That's handy. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 19 minutes ago, madmanxpilot said: Unlike previous incumbents of the post, he’s not a qualified civilian controller, and therefore cannot control aircraft here. So, looking in from the outside, in fairly small airport, where you probably need as much flexibility as possible, that looks like another poor appointment? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 6 hours ago, asitis said: Look everyday problems don't concern management, all that matters is the development plan , as I said eons ago the sort we have appointed don't want merely to be seen as running an airport ! Development is where the CV is at ! This isn't really an airport problem though - or at least exclusively an airport one. After all Reynolds didn't pick up her enhanced CV and swan off somewhere else - she just hung around dreaming up more unnecessary projects. The obsession with development and projects is a Manx government one and the Airport only a particularly obvious example. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Two-lane said: The airport management manages the airport - including the sub-contractors. That's right. You can't sub contract out your accountability. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 34 minutes ago, Happier diner said: That's right. You can't sub contract out your accountability. According to Cobb on MR a couple of weeks ago, they are only responsible for the car park and ATC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, Gladys said: According to Cobb on MR a couple of weeks ago, they are only responsible for the car park and ATC. Are the DOI accountable for baggage handling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 15 minutes ago, Gladys said: According to Cobb on MR a couple of weeks ago, they are only responsible for the car park and ATC. Who is the "they" you refer to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Two-lane said: Who is the "they" you refer to? Cobb and team. Not agreeing with him as I thought it was a very narrow definition of responsibility! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Gatwick cancelled again tonight, without explanation. I think they have barely operated 50% of the planned schedule in the last week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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