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A few updates to avoid misunderstandings.

1. the person who is returning to air traffic services is the former senior air traffic engineer - not an ATCO.

2. One ATCO has currently had his license suspended

3. The emergency a couple days ago  for the 737 substitute mail plane.

IOM airport does not have a plane recovery plan in their emergency response plan, for any aircraft.

No member of staff at IOM airport is qualified to tow an aircraft - EAM used to tow aircraft for West Atlantic,

There are  no IOM airport towing procedures for a  737 & no tow bar.

Would be interesting to know who towed, and what with, overnight 23/24 June, to remove the substitute mail plane from the runway

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20 hours ago, newaccount said:

Ronaldsway Airport hopes to bring its air traffic controllers up to full strength by September.

A Freedom of Information request asked how many ATC staff are needed, how many are currently working and how many are being recruited.

The airport says it need 16 operators but currently only has 14 - another four are due to start this year.

Of the 14 currently working, only eight are available for operational duty.

The figures come after Ronaldsway said the runway closed five times a day for air traffic controller rest periods because of staff shortages.

It’s mealy mouthed CS speak to avoid honesty.

To paraphrase.

We should have 16 operational. We actually only have 8, so we are at 50%.

They need to explain why 6 are non operational, and when, if at all, it’s anticipated they might become operational. What does non operational mean, training, familiarisation, unable to work unsupervised, suspended, off sick ( long/short term )

If another 4 are to start this year that takes up to 18. Are more operational ATCO to leave to bring down to 16, or are these trainees and it’s anticipating a 50% drop out? When is it anticipated those 4 will become operational?

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1 hour ago, Kipper99 said:

A few updates to avoid misunderstandings.

1. the person who is returning to air traffic services is the former senior air traffic engineer - not an ATCO.

2. One ATCO has currently had his license suspended

3. The emergency a couple days ago  for the 737 substitute mail plane.

IOM airport does not have a plane recovery plan in their emergency response plan, for any aircraft.

No member of staff at IOM airport is qualified to tow an aircraft - EAM used to tow aircraft for West Atlantic,

There are  no IOM airport towing procedures for a  737 & no tow bar.

Would be interesting to know who towed, and what with, overnight 23/24 June, to remove the substitute mail plane from the runway

So not even the fire services down there have any procedures for aircraft recovery?

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5 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

So not even the fire services down there have any procedures for aircraft recovery?

I’m not in the know, but airport fire service is part of the airport and will be part of the airport emergency response plan.

It’s not precisely clear to what kipper99 refers, but it sounds as if he/she is saying it’s not explicitly set out, and it should be. These things shouldn’t be ad hoc.

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The latest trick, presumably to make performance appear better than it is and to clear the lounge when all planes are delayed, is to Board passengers and leave them in the polytunnels even before incoming flights have been made ready. I witnessed and was part of it yesterday- bloody cold and cramped for 30 minutes. Top tip don’t Board until last calling 

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2 hours ago, Kipper99 said:

A few updates to avoid misunderstandings.

1. the person who is returning to air traffic services is the former senior air traffic engineer - not an ATCO.

2. One ATCO has currently had his license suspended

3. The emergency a couple days ago  for the 737 substitute mail plane.

IOM airport does not have a plane recovery plan in their emergency response plan, for any aircraft.

No member of staff at IOM airport is qualified to tow an aircraft - EAM used to tow aircraft for West Atlantic,

There are  no IOM airport towing procedures for a  737 & no tow bar.

Would be interesting to know who towed, and what with, overnight 23/24 June, to remove the substitute mail plane from the runway

Probably the Douglas seaweed tractor. 

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32 minutes ago, english zloty said:

The latest trick, presumably to make performance appear better than it is and to clear the lounge when all planes are delayed, is to Board passengers and leave them in the polytunnels even before incoming flights have been made ready. I witnessed and was part of it yesterday- bloody cold and cramped for 30 minutes. 

But at least you would have grown a couple of inches before you finally boarded.

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39 minutes ago, english zloty said:

The latest trick, presumably to make performance appear better than it is and to clear the lounge when all planes are delayed, is to Board passengers and leave them in the polytunnels even before incoming flights have been made ready. I witnessed and was part of it yesterday- bloody cold and cramped for 30 minutes. Top tip don’t Board until last calling 

We went straight onto easyJet last night, several planes were delayed on ground because of ATC break then crew had 4 to board in short time 

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Those who run the airport, both CS and politicians, are frankly aware, or at least must be, that it is an utter shambles. However they are unable to speak reality and have to disguise failings, which maybe aren't their fault, by mealy mouthed platitudes, which only annoys users more !

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4 hours ago, Kipper99 said:

A few updates to avoid misunderstandings.

1. the person who is returning to air traffic services is the former senior air traffic engineer - not an ATCO.

2. One ATCO has currently had his license suspended

3. The emergency a couple days ago  for the 737 substitute mail plane.

IOM airport does not have a plane recovery plan in their emergency response plan, for any aircraft.

No member of staff at IOM airport is qualified to tow an aircraft - EAM used to tow aircraft for West Atlantic,

There are  no IOM airport towing procedures for a  737 & no tow bar.

Would be interesting to know who towed, and what with, overnight 23/24 June, to remove the substitute mail plane from the runway

Rumour I heard was they refilled the hydraulic fluid and it was able to move a short distance under its own power 

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