newaccount Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, Two-lane said: A while ago a false alarm with the baggage scanners resulted in the roads around the airport being closed. Someone made an FoI request for the emergency plan but was denied on the grounds that terrorists would find things out. So who knows what is in the plan? There is no plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 27 minutes ago, Two-lane said: A while ago a false alarm with the baggage scanners resulted in the roads around the airport being closed. Someone made an FoI request for the emergency plan but was denied on the grounds that terrorists would find things out. not quite and its no surprise they're not telling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newaccount Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Coastguard rope training on the rock armour is because they were told there's no plan or training in case there's an aircraft incident in that area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringy Rose Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Andy Onchan said: thing that struck me was the fact that not only does the airport itself not have the right ground handling asset/equipment to move the aircraft neither does Menzies. Hydraulic leaks fail to safe, so rather than “not having the equipment” I imagine it was more that the hydraulic leak had completely disabled the 737. There will have been sufficient equipment here to handle it as the 737 had just been handled here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Ringy Rose said: Hydraulic leaks fail to safe, so rather than “not having the equipment” I imagine it was more that the hydraulic leak had completely disabled the 737. There will have been sufficient equipment here to handle it as the 737 had just been handled here. Whenever I’ve seen 737s at Ronaldsway, they park so that they can move off under their own power, negating the need for a tug and bar. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Further on Airport matters, Manx Radio has a story: More than 10% of Isle of Man flights in April cancelled - Worst total of any airport in the British Isles and unlike last time they have actually got it correct (worst 20): Airport Mvmts Canx % Canx ISLE OF MAN 903 95 10.52% ISLAY 114 10 8.77% BARRA 117 10 8.55% HUMBERSIDE 377 29 7.69% BENBECULA 178 11 6.18% TIREE 125 7 5.60% CAMPBELTOWN 80 4 5.00% ALDERNEY 378 18 4.76% GUERNSEY 1367 62 4.54% WICK JOHN O GROATS 90 4 4.44% KIRKWALL 798 34 4.26% SOUTHAMPTON 1518 60 3.95% STORNOWAY 357 11 3.08% BELFAST CITY (GEORGE BEST) 2332 69 2.96% NEWQUAY 552 14 2.54% LONDON CITY 4143 103 2.49% JERSEY 1502 33 2.20% ABERDEEN 4727 89 1.88% LIVERPOOL (JOHN LENNON) 2707 44 1.63% 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 March figures in my previous post here. Note that IOM's cancellation level has remained about the same, while all the other ones dropped, which suggests better weather was a factor for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: March figures in my previous post here. Note that IOM's cancellation level has remained about the same, while all the other ones dropped, which suggests better weather was a factor for them. And that makes airlines wary of the place too. They are hardly likely to fall over themselves to meet the island’s demands to have delays thrust upon them, others jump up the pecking order. We have an inflated opinion of our own importance as IoMG are playing games with our viability. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenary Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 41 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: Further on Airport matters, Manx Radio has a story: More than 10% of Isle of Man flights in April cancelled - Worst total of any airport in the British Isles and unlike last time they have actually got it correct (worst 20): Airport Mvmts Canx % Canx ISLE OF MAN 903 95 10.52% ISLAY 114 10 8.77% BARRA 117 10 8.55% HUMBERSIDE 377 29 7.69% BENBECULA 178 11 6.18% TIREE 125 7 5.60% CAMPBELTOWN 80 4 5.00% ALDERNEY 378 18 4.76% GUERNSEY 1367 62 4.54% WICK JOHN O GROATS 90 4 4.44% KIRKWALL 798 34 4.26% SOUTHAMPTON 1518 60 3.95% STORNOWAY 357 11 3.08% BELFAST CITY (GEORGE BEST) 2332 69 2.96% NEWQUAY 552 14 2.54% LONDON CITY 4143 103 2.49% JERSEY 1502 33 2.20% ABERDEEN 4727 89 1.88% LIVERPOOL (JOHN LENNON) 2707 44 1.63% £5 million+ of journey time delay in one month for IOM leisure & business users Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 3:16 PM, newaccount said: Coastguard rope training on the rock armour is because they were told there's no plan or training in case there's an aircraft incident in that area Speaking from experience, that rock armour on the runway (and the Stabits on Douglas Breakwater) are deadly for the uninitiated. If anyone ever gets in trouble in the water near them, trust me, swim for the beach even if it's further away. Unless you're a really confident rock climber, you're going to have to be rescued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 hour ago, The Phantom said: Speaking from experience, that rock armour on the runway (and the Stabits on Douglas Breakwater) are deadly for the uninitiated. If anyone ever gets in trouble in the water near them, trust me, swim for the beach even if it's further away. Unless you're a really confident rock climber, you're going to have to be rescued. Totally correct and if there’s any swell or choppy sea or worse you’re going to get badly injured as you won’t be able to climb the Stabits as the weed, diesel and likes will stop that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestboy Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Manchester two hours late.. now doing loops presumably because of ATC hours shambles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebushy Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 7 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: Further on Airport matters, Manx Radio has a story: More than 10% of Isle of Man flights in April cancelled - Worst total of any airport in the British Isles and unlike last time they have actually got it correct (worst 20): Airport Mvmts Canx % Canx ISLE OF MAN 903 95 10.52% ISLAY 114 10 8.77% BARRA 117 10 8.55% HUMBERSIDE 377 29 7.69% BENBECULA 178 11 6.18% TIREE 125 7 5.60% CAMPBELTOWN 80 4 5.00% ALDERNEY 378 18 4.76% GUERNSEY 1367 62 4.54% WICK JOHN O GROATS 90 4 4.44% KIRKWALL 798 34 4.26% SOUTHAMPTON 1518 60 3.95% STORNOWAY 357 11 3.08% BELFAST CITY (GEORGE BEST) 2332 69 2.96% NEWQUAY 552 14 2.54% LONDON CITY 4143 103 2.49% JERSEY 1502 33 2.20% ABERDEEN 4727 89 1.88% LIVERPOOL (JOHN LENNON) 2707 44 1.63% Yay, we have finally done it. Leaders of the British Isles at something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah 01 Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 'The isle of Man........Where You Can' ..................not get to by air - and even if you are lucky and make it, you'll have helluva job to escape again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newaccount Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/airport-chaos-on-the-agenda-622365 The Minister for Infrastructure is to make an announcement on the new daily airport runway closures. Chris Thomas will make a statement on the matter in Tuesday’s (June 27) sitting of the House of Keys which will start at 10am. Both Douglas North MHK David Ashford and Arbory, Castletown and Malew MHK Jason Moorhouse will ask the infrastructure minister about the reduced airport opening hours and related issues. It comes after a recent announcement from the Isle of Man Airport that the runway would close five times a day to meet the minimum rest requirements of air traffic control staff. Edited June 26, 2023 by newaccount Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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