Airport.

[newaccount]

Loganair from London to IOM tomorrow is £229. Both City and Heathrow are the same price.

Both have got at least 8 seats available 

 

[madmanxpilot]

13 minutes ago, Capt_Mainwaring said:

Got here and promptly turned around... outside crosswind limits?

The crosswind limit for the A319 is 35Kts wet or dry.

The wind was effectively all across at 22 gusting 34 Kts according to the METAR at 2120 local, which around about the time when they were here.

On the face of it, the crosswind was within limits of the aircraft.

[finlo]

1 minute ago, madmanxpilot said:

The crosswind limit for the A319 is 35Kts wet or dry.

The wind was effectively all across at 22 gusting 34 Kts according to the METAR at 2120 local, which around about the time when they were here.

On the face of it, the crosswind was within limits of the aircraft.

When was Sulby relocated?

[IOM]

5 minutes ago, madmanxpilot said:

The crosswind limit for the A319 is 35Kts wet or dry.

The wind was effectively all across at 22 gusting 34 Kts according to the METAR at 2120 local, which around about the time when they were here.

On the face of it, the crosswind was within limits of the aircraft.

Am not sure if it makes any difference but it was as an A320 . Whatever it is it’s another fine mess and there is another circa 360 passengers majorly inconvenienced . As Nellie points out if it was on time it would certainly have got in . 

[Nellie]

8 minutes ago, madmanxpilot said:

The crosswind limit for the A319 is 35Kts wet or dry.

The wind was effectively all across at 22 gusting 34 Kts according to the METAR at 2120 local, which around about the time when they were here.

On the face of it, the crosswind was within limits of the aircraft.

It was an A320. Does that make a difference?

[swoopy2110]

The airport's new social media team are saying it's due to a 'technical issue' with the aircraft that needs someone to look at it. We don't have anyone here obvs so easier for them to fly it back to LGW! Jesus.

[Nellie]

IOM Airport Facebook is saying this:-

"Important Notice: Gatwick flights cancelled 06/07/23

We regret to inform you that this evening’s inbound and outbound Gatwick flights have been cancelled due to a technical issue requiring engineering support.

Affected passengers are advised to check the easyJet app or website for further updates.

Thank you for your cooperation and understanding."

Suggests that it wasn't a weather issue, but not severe enough 'issue' to require a divert to LPL or MAN?

[Capt_Mainwaring]

1 minute ago, IOM said:

Am not sure if it makes any difference but it was as an A320 . Whatever it is it’s another fine mess and there is another circa 360 passengers majorly inconvenienced . As Nellie points out if it was on time it would certainly have got in . 

Yep. Not the airport this time though I guess, unless (given MMPs observations of the wind at the time) there's another reason?

@madmanxpilot - do the pilots get live updates on the wind, so could there have been a stronger gust since the 2120 METAR? Does Romaldsway have just the one wind measurement location or are there sensors at each end of the runway/elsewhere on the airfield?

[Kopek]

4 minutes ago, madmanxpilot said:

On the face of it, the crosswind was within limits of the aircraft.

So what are the consequences of this? The Airline will claim they were being 'super cautious'? Should there be something in their licence to punish them if they do not provide the service they offered? Does safety always over rule the service agreement?

I presume the plane would remain overnight for an early morning outgoing flight? It would not make sense to have the plane somewhere else the next day?

So it would seem that not only did the IoM lose a service but the Airline had to do some juggling of their aircraft the next day???

Would they do this without good reason???

[2112]

6 hours ago, kevster said:

Well, the guy sitting opposite me at work is on a chartered flight to Guernsey tomorrow

Will it take off, especially with the fiasco at the airport? 

[Banker]

3 minutes ago, 2112 said:

Will it take off, especially with the fiasco at the airport? 

There’s 3 flights apparently, Aurigny are doing them, spoke to some of football squad tonight so not sure why golfers are going by boat 

[newaccount]

8 minutes ago, Capt_Mainwaring said:

Yep. Not the airport this time though I guess, unless (given MMPs observations of the wind at the time) there's another reason?

@madmanxpilot - do the pilots get live updates on the wind, so could there have been a stronger gust since the 2120 METAR? Does Romaldsway have just the one wind measurement location or are there sensors at each end of the runway/elsewhere on the airfield?

Of course they get updated weather.

[newaccount]

5 minutes ago, Kopek said:

So what are the consequences of this? The Airline will claim they were being 'super cautious'? Should there be something in their licence to punish them if they do not provide the service they offered? Does safety always over rule the service agreement?

I presume the plane would remain overnight for an early morning outgoing flight? It would not make sense to have the plane somewhere else the next day?

So it would seem that not only did the IoM lose a service but the Airline had to do some juggling of their aircraft the next day???

Would they do this without good reason???

In terms of "punishment" you can thank the EU that they introduced EU261/2004 which means everyone will get £220. It has since been adopted into UK law. 

[Kopek]

.....and Manx law???

[newaccount]

Just now, Kopek said:

.....and Manx law???

It departed from the UK. It will arrive in the UK. So the UK law is applicable.

 

I'm sure an mhk will be along soon to tell you why it isn't in Manx law.