Airport.

[madmanxpilot]

50 minutes ago, Cinderella said:

Airport Facebook page has post on how they are taking a strategic approach to fix current ATC issues. A long term strategic approach. Read it and weep.

Oh and they have turned off comments on it too. A Friday night post and run exercise. 

They have turned off comments on most of their posts. 

[Banker]

6 minutes ago, madmanxpilot said:

They have turned off comments on most of their posts. 

Unsurprisingly as they get a load of abusive personal insults etc

[Nellie]

Tonight's news.

EZY from/to LPL arrived on time but left two hours late due to ATC.

Loganair from LCY was out over Irish Sea then diverted to LPL due to ATC. Eventually arrived almost three hours late.

EZY from LGW was 90 minutes late but still had to hold for 15 minutes due to ATC closure.

Still, it'll all be fine in 2026.

 

 

 

 

[Kopek]

...but itmaynot be IoM rwy that are causing the problems???

Maybe I'm being too cynical but when a flight, maybe delayed fro Egypt to Frankfurt to Amsterdam makes it a lot of delayed to the little old IoM  flight, then could it not be possible that the IOM flight could be abandoned, not after take off but before the flight is scheduled  to begin??? Not enough customers to make it viable? Cancel it, get the aircraft to where it will produce a profit outside the IoM?

Say it's a mechanical problem, who are we to argue against this? The airlne have us over abarrel on this? but suppose it's only a means to get trhe best profit? CAN WE QUESTION THEm ON SAFETY GROUNDS?

I admit, I have no knowledge of this situation but then, a little cynisism goes a long way??? and usually means an admission is a week away!!!

[Numbnuts]

2 minutes ago, Nellie said:

Tonight's news.

EZY from/to LPL arrived on time but left two hours late due to ATC.

Loganair from LCY was out over Irish Sea then diverted to LPL due to ATC. Eventually arrived almost three hours late.

EZY from LGW was 90 minutes late but still had to hold for 15 minutes due to ATC closure.

Still, it'll all be fine in 2026.

 

 

 

 

Poor passengers. And the amount of people just ditching their flights and going boat and taxi to Manchester is mind blowing. Between £65 to £90 plus just for taxi. It’s costing people a fortune to get to where they need to be. Clearly not going to be a short term answer but never mind . Maybe there will be a scutch of ATC people in Alf’s 15K new residents 

[newaccount]

https://twitter.com/EFCAL1878/status/1677357354478714880?t=HxJzzHiGHV_2UeZtvvrcmw&s=19

Quote -

Another IOM Airport shambles! Every flight stand full, 2 planes waiting to park an ATC are now going on a break😂😂 could not write it

Edited July 7, 2023 by newaccount

[newaccount]

https://twitter.com/AmyL_IoM/status/1677405578207940608?t=YQ5pthkW9zx1a-cKbtT6vw&s=19

 

Quote -

 

On the plane a few hours late but the pilot says they’re trying to negotiate a landing slot at IOM airport for us before they close 😆 can’t start engines until it’s agreed, we are all melting without any aircon 🔥 🥵 can’t make this shit up

Edited July 7, 2023 by newaccount

[newaccount]

https://twitter.com/AttreeJane/status/1677374760907333636?t=gxjMMv2iC8tJ4rwGGc-0lA&s=19

 

According to this....further delays caused by using 2 sets of steps per plane. So not enough to go round. Suggestion is that they use one per plane so that 4 planes can allow their passengers to disembark

Edited July 7, 2023 by newaccount

[asitis]

Shortly we have a meeting in the UK which we have to make, no ifs no buts. We are travelling a day early with easyJet, but have now booked via Dublin with aer lingus and Ryanair to make Gatwick as well.

This open skies, lo cost carrier, no base, no engineering is going really well isn't it !

 

 

[newaccount]

Looks like easyJet are making schedule changes / cancellations on Tuesdays and Sundays for the next 5 weeks. Gatwick 

Edited July 7, 2023 by newaccount

[Roger Mexico]

16 minutes ago, Nellie said:

Tonight's news.

EZY from/to LPL arrived on time but left two hours late due to ATC.  [...]

That doesn't make sense because the programmed breaks are only 45 min max I think.  What also seems to be impacting things is slow ground handling as referred to in one of the replies to one of the Tweets above.  Obviously if landings are more concentrated into particular periods there will be more pressure on ground handling, but I suspect things need to be improved there as well.

 

1 hour ago, madmanxpilot said:

Finally an admission that it will take at least three years to bring staffing levels up to where they need to be. There will have to be further recruitment, and even with that the target will only be achieved if everyone does well in their training. 

That was implied in the figures they'd already given - 3 of those 18 haven't even started training yet after all.  Given the attrition rate there has been recently and the uncertainties of training, we'll be lucky to get anywhere near.  But what else can they do?

[newaccount]

12 minutes ago, asitis said:

Shortly we have a meeting in the UK which we have to make, no ifs no buts. We are travelling a day early with easyJet, but have now booked via Dublin with aer lingus and Ryanair to make Gatwick as well.

This open skies, lo cost carrier, no base, no engineering is going really well isn't it !

 

 

If easyJet continue so bad, the market will pick Loganair instead. That's how capitalism works with free choice.  If easyJet are so bad they'll get too few passengers. ... 

 

So stop crying and pick Loganair 

Edited July 7, 2023 by newaccount

[Anyone]

Hells bells let’s get Guy Gibson to sort it out and his lovely black Labrador who was famously l think called Blackie. Or was it something else?

[Numbnuts]

5 minutes ago, Anyone said:

Hells bells let’s get Guy Gibson to sort it out and his lovely black Labrador who was famously l think called Blackie. Or was it something else?

It definitely was something else . A unmentionable name these days !      

[A fool and his money.....]

1 hour ago, Numbnuts said:

 Maybe there will be a scutch of ATC people in Alf’s 15K new residents 

And there lies the problem. They're so blinkered into throwing money at people to come and live here, they've got no vision or money to train any existing residents. 

This has backfired big time with ATC because even the ATC's they're throwing money at importing need local training.

As the last census shows though it's not working generally either - what was it, a 600 odd net increase in economically active population since the previous census. Government head count had grown many times that in same period - no doubt many of them working for locate.im. 

I've also heard of a good few of these imports staying the two years that the sweeteners last for and then buggering off again.

Governments latest act of desperation is to abolish the work permit system, presumably to remove any danger of existing residents being employed ahead of an import.

As someone who has worked and paid tax here all my working life, I'm increasingly feeling like our government just want to milk us for what they can get. Why offer us training? We're paying tax already, far more lucrative to import someone who isn't yet paying them tax, even if we have to throw thousands at them to persuade them.

So much for social mobility or life-long learning, they can be sacrificed at the alter of lucrative government pensions. The Manxies can get back in their box, we'll import people to do the clever jobs.