Airport.

[NoTailT]

8 minutes ago, IOM said:

I have no intention of submitting an FOI . You have been consistently saying it was multi millions and quoting the pandemic costs which agreed were  £4.5m . I note you have never referenced the £44m for the runway extension which was effectively a ‘subsidy’  to EasyJet but I know that does not really suit your narrative. 

You and your narratives, you do make me laugh.

[Roger Mexico]

53 minutes ago, NoTailT said:

Submit your own FOI.

Im reliably told the subsidy so far has been £1.7mln, excluding the £4.5mln during the pandemic.

You won't get far with an FoI.  Someone asked about a year ago (ref:2694889):

"I seek a weekly breakdown of the total amount paid to underwrite Loganair's Heathrow route since it was introduced in May, up to October 4 2022. The Department for Enterprise said it did not hold this information, but said the DoI might."

While our aim is to provide information whenever possible, in this instance the information is exempt from disclosure under section 30 of the Act as disclosure would be likely to prejudice the commercial interests of the Department of Infrastructure.

[TheTeapot]

Wind kicked up a fair bit and theres an easyjet struggling down this way, had a few goes at landing

Edited September 27, 2023 by TheTeapot

[TheTeapot]

Looked it up, its given up. 

[asitis]

2 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

Wind kicked up a far bit and theres an easyjet struggling down this way, had a few goes at landing

He's on his way back to Belfast.

[Nellie]

15 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

Wind kicked up a fair bit and theres an easyjet struggling down this way, had a few goes at landing

He only made two actual approaches. More than that would be pretty unusual. 

[TheTeapot]

1 minute ago, Nellie said:

He only made two actual approaches. More than that would be pretty unusual. 

Fair enough, I was listening to the wind and the engines broke through. Its got pretty wild gusts over the last hour.

[Omobono]

26 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

Fair enough, I was listening to the wind and the engines broke through. Its got pretty wild gusts over the last hour.

generally the rules say make 2 attempts to land  , if its not possible then call it a day and divert somewhere else 

read the investigation into manx 2  air accident in Ireland ,

[madmanxpilot]

1 hour ago, Omobono said:

generally the rules say make 2 attempts to land  , if its not possible then call it a day and divert somewhere else 

read the investigation into manx 2  air accident in Ireland ,

There are no actual rules per se regarding the number of approaches you can make, but you are right that the normal accepted policy of the airlines is that if you haven’t managed to get in on the second attempt, unless there is a significant improvement in conditions expected, then you should call it a day and divert.

Regarding that awful day in Cork, they should never have made any approaches at all as the visibility was below the legal minima at all times. 

[Andy Onchan]

https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/loganair-to-take-on-flights-to-manchester-641254

[swoopy2110]

1 hour ago, Andy Onchan said:

https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/loganair-to-take-on-flights-to-manchester-641254

Not so quick to release media when they cancel their own Manchester flights though as they have done with mine in February, and dropped down to 1 per day on some days of the week.

[IOM]

38 minutes ago, swoopy2110 said:

Not so quick to release media when they cancel their own Manchester flights though as they have done with mine in February, and dropped down to 1 per day on some days of the week.

Only the same as EasyJet. All airlines will drive out media releases about new flights it’s called ………. marketing ! 

[NoTailT]

4 hours ago, Andy Onchan said:

https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/loganair-to-take-on-flights-to-manchester-641254

I didn't even notice they'd dropped it. When did it stop being twice daily? Last time I flew Loganair to Manchester it was.

It's not really a rescue mission. easy was unfortunately damaging Loganairs Manchester loads badly, so a neutral recovery.

Edited September 28, 2023 by NoTailT

[Roger Mexico]

I spent some time yesterday looking at what was the average number of pax per flight on each route in July, based on the punctuality figures already released and the Airport's pax figures:

Airport	Carrier	Flts	Pax	Aver
BFS	easyJet	18	1905	106
BRS	easyJet	18	2614	145
LGW	easyJet	81	11422	141
LPL	easyJet	95	8859	93
MAN	easyJet	60	6352	106
DUB	Emerald	78	3638	47
BHD	Emerald	54	1344	25
BHX	Loganair	51	1845	36
EDI	Loganair	34	1145	34
LHR	Loganair	62	3424	55
LPL	Loganair	102	3510	34
LCY	Loganair	67	2124	32
MAN	Loganair	104	3520	34

[NoTailT]

13 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

I spent some time yesterday looking at what was the average number of pax per flight on each route in July, based on the punctuality figures already released and the Airport's pax figures:

Airport	Carrier	Flts	Pax	Aver
BFS	easyJet	18	1905	106
BRS	easyJet	18	2614	145
LGW	easyJet	81	11422	141
LPL	easyJet	95	8859	93
MAN	easyJet	60	6352	106
DUB	Emerald	78	3638	47
BHD	Emerald	54	1344	25
BHX	Loganair	51	1845	36
EDI	Loganair	34	1145	34
LHR	Loganair	62	3424	55
LPL	Loganair	102	3510	34
LCY	Loganair	67	2124	32
MAN	Loganair	104	3520	34

They're all abysmal. Across the board.