2112 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 39 minutes ago, Cueey Lewis And The News said: It’s disgusting though the report says he’s already been paid out a substantial sum at tribunal. Now the greedy twat is no doubt coming back for second dibs having seen what Ranson got. We are just a bottomless pit of money for these people. It’s genuinely disgusting how many of these seem to have got big payouts under NDA to keep everything quiet. If you seperate the persosality, persona and the ability of the individual, it seems that irrespective, IOMG, the DoI and Airport questions to answer. Many people view him as greedy, of which, they may have a point, but it’s not good for someone, to work in a role for 3 years, leave and take their ‘employer’ to tribunal, settlement or win. FFS it’s taxpayers cash ……………. and there are other allegations to be heard within other claims. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cueey Lewis And The News Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, 2112 said: If you seperate the persosality, persona and the ability of the individual, it seems that irrespective, IOMG, the DoI and Airport questions to answer. Many people view him as greedy, of which, they may have a point, but it’s not good for someone, to work in a role for 3 years, leave and take their ‘employer’ to tribunal, settlement or win. FFS it’s taxpayers cash ……………. and there are other allegations to be heard within other claims. Are there though? They bought him off under a compromise agreement at tribunal so presumably his concerns were raised there and they settled? No doubt to save their own embarrassment at having employed such a fantasist in the first place. It says he stepped down in March 2022 and left the role in May 2022 and likely he’d been off with stress (another ridiculous IOM Government default work pattern) in the intervening period. Then he got a substantial amount in January this year under a compromise agreement and is now clearly coming back for more having seen what Ranson got for her bullying claims despite settling under an NDA. I’d estimate that for at least a year of his employment by the taxpayer the airport was closed due to covid. So presumably he was paid to do bugger all but have stress during that period of time and then he fancied some compo out of the taxpayer to assist his transfer back to the UK. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 The airport had, and has, some dreadful people in post, who frankly far from solving our transport issues merely add to them ! HR and whichever clowns employ these people need their heads shaking . 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 21 minutes ago, Cueey Lewis And The News said: Are there though? They bought him off under a compromise agreement at tribunal so presumably his concerns were raised there and they settled? No doubt to save their own embarrassment at having employed such a fantasist in the first place. It says he stepped down in March 2022 and left the role in May 2022 and likely he’d been off with stress (another ridiculous IOM Government default work pattern) in the intervening period. Then he got a substantial amount in January this year under a compromise agreement and is now clearly coming back for more having seen what Ranson got for her bullying claims despite settling under an NDA. I’d estimate that for at least a year of his employment by the taxpayer the airport was closed due to covid. So presumably he was paid to do bugger all but have stress during that period of time and then he fancied some compo out of the taxpayer to assist his transfer back to the UK. Whatever, the rights or wrongs, he must have some form of case, otherwise would any decent legal firm take it on. If the DoI/Airport/IOMG were so confident they shouldn’t have come to a compromise/settlement, and perhaps insisted that it’s heard at a tribunal to test the claim. Sadly as with most things involving IOMG and its recruitment, selection and staff retention policies there seems to be more questions, which are being answered by a tribunal - at a great cost to the taxpayer, and not forgetting reputation to the island. Think of the exposure this case brings, to both the public and publicised within the aviation industry, making it hard to recruit senior airport staff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newaccount Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, 2112 said: Whatever, the rights or wrongs, he must have some form of case, otherwise would any decent legal firm take it on. If the DoI/Airport/IOMG were so confident they shouldn’t have come to a compromise/settlement, and perhaps insisted that it’s heard at a tribunal to test the claim. Sadly as with most things involving IOMG and its recruitment, selection and staff retention policies there seems to be more questions, which are being answered by a tribunal - at a great cost to the taxpayer, and not forgetting reputation to the island. Think of the exposure this case brings, to both the public and publicised within the aviation industry, making it hard to recruit senior airport staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 "But advocate for the DoI Keira Gore ...... She said the dismissal was motivated ‘wholly or primarily by the claimant’s repeated protected disclosures regarding safety related and other matters’." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevster Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 16 hours ago, cheesypeas said: Why does the airport have a chimney stack? A gas or oil boiler will still need a vent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, 2112 said: this case brings, to both the public and publicised within the aviation industry, making it hard to recruit senior airport staff. Maybe this is why we have the numbnuts we have ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Two-lane said: "But advocate for the DoI Keira Gore ...... She said the dismissal was motivated ‘wholly or primarily by the claimant’s repeated protected disclosures regarding safety related and other matters’." Yes, that confused me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cueey Lewis And The News Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 20 minutes ago, 2112 said: Whatever, the rights or wrongs, he must have some form of case, otherwise would any decent legal firm take it on. If the DoI/Airport/IOMG were so confident they shouldn’t have come to a compromise/settlement, and perhaps insisted that it’s heard at a tribunal to test the claim. The fact is he settled under a compromise agreement. Now he’s coming back for more. I wonder what protected disclosures he was making about safety at an airport that was a vaccination centre for the best part of a year in which he was responsible for it. He’s an ambulance chasing scrounger. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I think the people hiring these clowns need to be shown the door. Not only have we ended up with incompetent people for the jobs, but end up paying millions in hush money. Who heard of the original claim, not me another let's keep it quite under the carpet, the public have no need to know we fucked up AGAIN. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringy Rose Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 49 minutes ago, asitis said: HR and whichever clowns employ these people need their heads shaking HR don’t recruit people. The managers recruit people. Maybe they were dazzled by Spake being on the telly in the 90s, but the guy DID have proper aviation experience. That’s why he was on the telly in the first place. Being an ops manager for Aeroflot must have been quite the experience. Spake also never said publicly who he was bullied by. But I can imagine there were- and still are- quite a few people in the airport/wider DOI who would be quite happy for him to get the blame for their shortcomings. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 28 minutes ago, Cueey Lewis And The News said: The fact is he settled under a compromise agreement. Now he’s coming back for more. I wonder what protected disclosures he was making about safety at an airport that was a vaccination centre for the best part of a year in which he was responsible for it. He’s an ambulance chasing scrounger. I agree with where you are coming from, perhaps, the other claims should have been nipped in the bud, sadly this isn’t the case. So perhaps IOMG and its legal team, have failed? If he has a good legal team (possibly union funded?) you can’t blame them for seeking every opportunity for their client. Perhaps the compromise agreed should have encompassed all allegations for a full and final settlement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Ringy Rose said: HR don’t recruit people. The managers recruit people. Maybe they were dazzled by Spake being on the telly in the 90s, but the guy DID have proper aviation experience. That’s why he was on the telly in the first place. Being an ops manager for Aeroflot must have been quite the experience. Spake also never said publicly who he was bullied by. But I can imagine there were- and still are- quite a few people in the airport/wider DOI who would be quite happy for him to get the blame for their shortcomings. Case in point was the recruitment of ex DHSC Chief Executive ……….. well he did ride a Harly Davidson and was into motorcycles. Edited November 14, 2023 by 2112 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, Cueey Lewis And The News said: The fact is he settled under a compromise agreement. Now he’s coming back for more. I wonder what protected disclosures he was making about safety at an airport that was a vaccination centre for the best part of a year in which he was responsible for it. But it wasn't just a vaccination centre, it was still operating as an airport through 2020 and 2021[1]. Passenger numbers were way down, but there were still several flights a day. So the Airport did need to operate fully with all the usual safety rules, plus extra Covid-related rules. Of course he wasn't technically 'responsible' for the Airport for most of that time as Reynolds was still there till October 2021 and they then had to bring back the old Deputy from retirement because Spake didn't have the qualifications. The ex-Deputy immediately went off sick which may tell something about the atmosphere in the place. [1] Which of course is one of many reasons why it was pretty unsuitable as somewhere to put a vaccination centre, as many pointed out at the time. But as with Chester Street, the location was dictated by the self-interest of DoI management rather than the needs of the health service. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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