Airport.

[madmanxpilot]

21 minutes ago, asitis said:

Agreed , there were a number of diversions today from Manchester to Birmingham so some were struggling earlier.

The wind has been 30 degrees off the runway heading almost all of the day here - which means the crosswind component will be 50% of the actual windspeed, so whilst it’d be rather bumpy on final approach, it’s shouldn’t pose  a problem.

Manchester’s runways are oriented about 30 degrees further towards the south, so that NW wind has been 60 degrees off the runway direction. That means that almost 90% of any wind speed will be crosswind, which would be an issue today.

If anyone is interested, calculating the crosswind component is fairly simple - take sine of the difference in direction of runway heading and wind direction and multiply the result by the windspeed.

[doc.fixit]

No 1 son and family were supposed to be on tonight's Gatwick to IOM. He' just called us to say it's cancelled.

Ronaldsway says its due at 9

Gatwick says delayed.

Jeez!

Good job that we decided we wouldn't set off from Ballaugh until son confirmed take off.

[newaccount]

9 minutes ago, doc.fixit said:

No 1 son and family were supposed to be on tonight's Gatwick to IOM. He' just called us to say it's cancelled.

Ronaldsway says its due at 9

Gatwick says delayed.

Jeez!

Good job that we decided we wouldn't set off from Ballaugh until son confirmed take off.

Delayed overnight to 0800 tomorrow.

 

Crew issue. 

[WTF]

1 hour ago, doc.fixit said:

No 1 son and family were supposed to be on tonight's Gatwick to IOM. He' just called us to say it's cancelled.

Ronaldsway says its due at 9

Gatwick says delayed.

Jeez!

Good job that we decided we wouldn't set off from Ballaugh until son confirmed take off.

i wouldn't set off from ballaugh until he'd confirmed landing in case it had to return cos they couldn't get in .  by the time the baggage has made it into the hands of the passengers you will easily have time to get from ballaugh before they come out.

[Utah 01]

8 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

The only position where he was any sort of supervisory role was a Deputy one held for only 20 months after which he left

An assessment to be expected from a civvy with no military knowledge or experience whatsoever.

That's a full and comprehensive military ATCO CV from which he will have gained more experience than you've got in your little finger.  Several of those tours, although ostensibly operational, will always involve management.  All ATC tasks are management albeit with aircraft rather than directly with personnel although as a Royal Navy officer man-management ashore and at sea are part and parcel of daily commissioned life.  To take an aircraft through UK airspace in area radar terms, as he would have done at London Mil, is complex management and he'll have made more decisions in an hour on console than most of 'you lot' will make in a year.

There may well be  a culture and personality problem down at Heathrow-on-Sea but the ATC manager, on paper, he has more than enough experience, both managerial and operationally, for this Manx backwater.  I'd venture to suggest he might have too much!

 

Edited December 21, 2023 by Utah 01

[Ringy Rose]

3 hours ago, newaccount said:

Nothing else has been cancelled, so I wouldn't assume it was wind speed

It will have been , there were quite a few diversions from Manchester this afternoon.

[asitis]

12 hours ago, Utah 01 said:

An assessment to be expected from a civvy with no military knowledge or experience whatsoever.

That's a full and comprehensive military ATCO CV from which he will have gained more experience than you've got in your little finger.  Several of those tours, although ostensibly operational, will always involve management.  All ATC tasks are management albeit with aircraft rather than directly with personnel although as a Royal Navy officer man-management ashore and at sea are part and parcel of daily commissioned life.  To take an aircraft through UK airspace in area radar terms, as he would have done at London Mil, is complex management and he'll have made more decisions in an hour on console than most of 'you lot' will make in a year.

There may well be  a culture and personality problem down at Heathrow-on-Sea but the ATC manager, on paper, he has more than enough experience, both managerial and operationally, for this Manx backwater.  I'd venture to suggest he might have too much!

 

Christ, I am sad to say there is an awful lot of people got him wrong then !

Misunderstood probably.

Edited December 22, 2023 by asitis

[newaccount]

Tenerife starts today. Great if you've got £££££

 

Otherwise the poor can only hope for easyJet or Ryanair 

[piebaps]

23 minutes ago, newaccount said:

Tenerife starts today. Great if you've got £££££

Otherwise the poor can only hope for easyJet or Ryanair 

Rubbish. Do a like for like comparison. Include hold luggage and throw in an overnight at each end.

EZY through LPL for example requires an overnight each end. (My test was for 26/01 to 02/02).

For 2 adults its around £800 for EZY and £1100 for the direct. Ezy would however require an extra day off work so the reality is there's not that much difference to make it a deal breaker.

 

Edited December 22, 2023 by piebaps

[madmanxpilot]

 

16 hours ago, Utah 01 said:

An assessment to be expected from a civvy with no military knowledge or experience whatsoever.

That's a full and comprehensive military ATCO CV from which he will have gained more experience than you've got in your little finger.  Several of those tours, although ostensibly operational, will always involve management.  All ATC tasks are management albeit with aircraft rather than directly with personnel although as a Royal Navy officer man-management ashore and at sea are part and parcel of daily commissioned life.  To take an aircraft through UK airspace in area radar terms, as he would have done at London Mil, is complex management and he'll have made more decisions in an hour on console than most of 'you lot' will make in a year.

There may well be  a culture and personality problem down at Heathrow-on-Sea but the ATC manager, on paper, he has more than enough experience, both managerial and operationally, for this Manx backwater.  I'd venture to suggest he might have too much!

 

I wonder if dressing up as Santa will appear on his CV too?

Edited December 22, 2023 by madmanxpilot

[dreamon]

16 hours ago, Utah 01 said:

An assessment to be expected from a civvy with no military knowledge or experience whatsoever.

That's a full and comprehensive military ATCO CV from which he will have gained more experience than you've got in your little finger.  Several of those tours, although ostensibly operational, will always involve management.  All ATC tasks are management albeit with aircraft rather than directly with personnel although as a Royal Navy officer man-management ashore and at sea are part and parcel of daily commissioned life.  To take an aircraft through UK airspace in area radar terms, as he would have done at London Mil, is complex management and he'll have made more decisions in an hour on console than most of 'you lot' will make in a year.

There may well be  a culture and personality problem down at Heathrow-on-Sea but the ATC manager, on paper, he has more than enough experience, both managerial and operationally, for this Manx backwater.  I'd venture to suggest he might have too much!

 

😁  Nice try Mr Pugh.

[Andy Onchan]

16 hours ago, Utah 01 said:

There may well be  a culture and personality problem down at Heathrow-on-Sea but the ATC manager, on paper, he has more than enough experience, both managerial and operationally, for this Manx backwater.  I'd venture to suggest he might have too much!

If he's that well qualified and experienced why is here in this 'backwater'? 

[Manx Mole]

15 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

If he's that well qualified and experienced why is here in this 'backwater'? 

Coz it's only here here he gets to be Santa obviously.

 

[newaccount]

3 hours ago, piebaps said:

Rubbish. Do a like for like comparison. Include hold luggage and throw in an overnight at each end.

EZY through LPL for example requires an overnight each end. (My test was for 26/01 to 02/02).

For 2 adults its around £800 for EZY and £1100 for the direct. Ezy would however require an extra day off work so the reality is there's not that much difference to make it a deal breaker.

 

 

add in Ibis budget manchester airport fri 19th £66 and saturday 27th £60 for a room for 2 adults

 

without adding it up it's approx £400 for two people,  but yeah i am talking rubbish if you say so

 

 

Edited December 22, 2023 by newaccount

[John Wright]

12 minutes ago, newaccount said:

 

yeah i am talking rubbish

 

 

OK. That’s a very small bag each  for a week.

Plus you need to add hold bags x 8 and  seat allocation x 8.

And you’ve ignored food and extra day off/day less holiday and risk of one of the connecting flights being cancelled.

Its only then you’d be comparing like with like.