asitis Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 19 minutes ago, newaccount said: Menzies deicing rig is broken The airports de icing arrangements were broken. Thanks Gary ! LOL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 27 minutes ago, asitis said: Thanks Gary If I recall correctly (probably not) Cobb is responsible for ATC and car parks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newaccount Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 33 minutes ago, asitis said: The airports MENZIES de icing arrangements were broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 3 minutes ago, newaccount said: Yes I saw that, just a way of absolving the airport from its responsibilities to provide air transport . The not me guv beloved of politicians and civil servants ! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 10 minutes ago, Two-lane said: If I recall correctly (probably not) Cobb is responsible for ATC and car parks. Well ATC is a fuck up, so I guess he's the highest paid car park attendant on the planet ! 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOM Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 55 minutes ago, asitis said: The airports de icing arrangements were broken. Thanks Gary ! LOL Can’t imagine how much Loganair will claim from Menzies . It really does have the feel of everybody being asleep at the wheel surely an airports team including management, Menzies , Loganair etc could have asked themselves the question are we prepared for the winter and is everything working . It’s really not difficult! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newaccount Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 not the first time this has happened 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesypeas Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 2 hours ago, newaccount said: Loganair have cancelled Liverpool, Manchester and Birmingham so far today. Easyjet operated their Gatwick service earlier. Good that the airport is open. Thank God we've still got easyJet. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, asitis said: The airports de icing arrangements were broken. Thanks Gary ! LOL Typical of you blaming the wrong people as usual due to your hatred of certain people in Government, are you related to 2112 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Banker said: Typical of you blaming the wrong people as usual due to your hatred of certain people in Government, are you related to 2112 😂 Nope, but he's obviously a shrewd guy !. Do you deal with these people regularly ? I do, and frankly the airport has had enough of incompetents and dreamers whose sole interest is self promotion and utter bullshit ! Do you think the Civil Servants we employ are value for money ? How many of the useless tools are on six figure salaries in charge of departments whose output is pitiful ! Do you not think for the amount of money we spend on Government and administration here that things should be better ? Again I do. Stop crawling to them and open your eyes, or are you part of the problem. Does it not irk you that the phrase that triggered my response was "Menzies" de-icing equipment was broken, the language of the school yard, it wasn't me it was Johnny ! Surely to goodness someone is responsible for the smooth running of the place as a poster said above it's not the first time. In a few hours last night Inverness ground crew pumped 800 litres of deicing fluid onto a very few aircraft and got them away. No one spent their days finger pointing. If we had more people who were prepared to stand up and be counted, we wouldn't be in the state we are as an airport and as an island ! Edited January 18 by asitis 2 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 If Cobb was a half decent or competent manager, he'd be asking Menzies, and any other third party suppliers, every Monday, "Is your de-icer (or insert other operationally critical kit) working and available this week?" This 'not my job' caper isn't good enough when it's the reputation of 'his' airport and the wider Island. Plus, he needs Loganair and easyjet, so he should have enough sense to try and head off issues that might upset them, or cost them money, even if he's not directly responsible. 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOM Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, cheesypeas said: Thank God we've still got easyJet. LOL Except on Tuesdays and Wednesdays in January 🤣🤣🤣🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 4 minutes ago, Nellie said: If Cobb was a half decent or competent manager, he'd be asking Menzies, and any other third party suppliers, every Monday, "Is your de-icer (or insert other operationally critical kit) working and available this week?" This 'not my job' caper isn't good enough when it's the reputation of 'his' airport and the wider Island. Plus, he needs Loganair and easyjet, so he should have enough sense to try and head off issues that might upset them, or cost them money, even if he's not directly responsible. But it is literally nothing to do with him. The contract is between the airlines individually and Menzies. Menzies would be perfectly entitled to tell him not to interfere. The decision that the Airport should no longer provide ground-handling services was made before he arrived. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDave Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Plenty of people here who have never operated unusual machinery on island. Stuff breaks, normally when you least want it to. In the UK you phone someone and have a new part in a few hours, it’s not that simple here unfortunately and it’s often not cost effective to keep spares of everything, or you might even need to fly or ferry an engineer in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOM Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 15 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: But it is literally nothing to do with him. The contract is between the airlines individually and Menzies. Menzies would be perfectly entitled to tell him not to interfere. The decision that the Airport should no longer provide ground-handling services was made before he arrived. Contractually yes it’s not his direct responsibility. However I would expect there to be regular and ongoing dialogue between all relevant parties to ensure everything is in place as it should be . It’s nonsense to think that they all operate entirely separately and never talk to each other ! 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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