Airport.

[The Voice of Reason]

10 minutes ago, CrazyDave said:

There isn’t an airport in the world where that is the case.

There’s many that get closer to achieving that target. As ours certainly did not too many years ago.

What has happened?

[CrazyDave]

2 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

There’s many that get closer to achieving that target. As ours certainly did not too many years ago.

What has happened?

 COVID - reductions in staff.

An industry that is still struggling to return to pre COVID levels of traffic.

International shortages of ATC staff

Increases rules. Regs and safety requirements meaning that flights that might have gone years ago now don’t.

[newaccount]

Heathrow diverted to Manchester on way to IOM. 

IOM to Manchester cancelled.

London City cancelled.

Loganair are in a true mess at the moment 

 

 

[IOM]

On 2/29/2024 at 4:07 PM, newaccount said:

Source three FM

 

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EasyJet is running flights to Luton airport from Ronaldsway during this year's TT.

 

The company is offering the trips on Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays and Sundays.

 

The flights run from May 27 until June 10.

 

It's currently taking bookings via its website.

Nine flights from Luton for TT at random times of the day ……not exactly much to get excited about ! 

[Roger Mexico]

Regarding flight cancellations, I've been looking at the figures for 2023 as a whole.  The December figures were published last month and though the CAA consolidated and corrected ones won't be available till later I added up the monthly ones to give provisional annual ones:

	Airport	2023 Total
		Total ATM	Canx	Perc
1	BARRA	1,383	188	13.59%
2	TIREE	1,553	163	10.50%
3	ISLAY	1,355	141	10.41%
4	CAMPBELTOWN	1,057	101	9.56%
5	HUMBERSIDE	4,956	438	8.84%
6	ALDERNEY	4,382	331	7.55%
7	DUNDEE	1,655	94	5.68%
8	WICK JOHN O GROATS	1,128	60	5.32%
9	BENBECULA	2,007	106	5.28%
10	STORNOWAY	5,131	266	5.18%
11	ISLE OF MAN	10,518	541	5.14%
12	KIRKWALL	10,320	521	5.05%
13	LONDON CITY	50,525	2,039	4.04%
14	NEWQUAY	6,048	235	3.89%
15	BELFAST CITY (GEORGE BEST)	29,373	1,056	3.60%
16	TEESSIDE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT	3,210	112	3.49%
17	SOUTHAMPTON	17,909	573	3.20%
18	LEEDS BRADFORD	29,281	879	3.00%
19	GUERNSEY	16,131	476	2.95%
20	ABERDEEN	58,049	1,553	2.68%
21	SUMBURGH	11,763	312	2.65%
22	INVERNESS	12,269	313	2.55%
23	EXETER	6,644	164	2.47%
24	GLASGOW	63,878	1,574	2.46%
25	SOUTHEND	994	23	2.31%
26	HEATHROW	463,854	9,789	2.11%
27	GATWICK	257,778	4,767	1.85%
28	JERSEY	18,337	291	1.59%
29	EDINBURGH	111,335	1,748	1.57%
30	CARDIFF WALES	7,764	113	1.46%
31	MANCHESTER	173,688	2,319	1.34%
32	BRISTOL	68,635	876	1.28%
33	NEWCASTLE	35,856	447	1.25%
34	LIVERPOOL (JOHN LENNON)	31,518	375	1.19%
35	BIRMINGHAM	81,049	948	1.17%
36	LUTON	100,380	1,057	1.05%
37	BELFAST INTERNATIONAL	47,748	463	0.97%
38	CITY OF DERRY (EGLINTON)	3,040	26	0.86%
39	NORWICH	14,661	96	0.65%
40	STANSTED	179,193	1,144	0.64%
41	EAST MIDLANDS INTERNATIONAL	48,694	174	0.36%
	Total	1,995,049	36,892	1.85%

Some airports don't give cancellation figures or very low ones as they mainly operate holiday flights, so I have omitted those.  As you can see the Isle of Man's figures weren't great with only the usual suspects (mainly small island airports) doing worse.

[Albert Tatlock]

1 minute ago, Roger Mexico said:

Regarding flight cancellations, I've been looking at the figures for 2023 as a whole.  The December figures were published last month and though the CAA consolidated and corrected ones won't be available till later I added up the monthly ones to give provisional annual ones:

	Airport	2023 Total
		Total ATM	Canx	Perc
1	BARRA	1,383	188	13.59%
2	TIREE	1,553	163	10.50%
3	ISLAY	1,355	141	10.41%
4	CAMPBELTOWN	1,057	101	9.56%
5	HUMBERSIDE	4,956	438	8.84%
6	ALDERNEY	4,382	331	7.55%
7	DUNDEE	1,655	94	5.68%
8	WICK JOHN O GROATS	1,128	60	5.32%
9	BENBECULA	2,007	106	5.28%
10	STORNOWAY	5,131	266	5.18%
11	ISLE OF MAN	10,518	541	5.14%
12	KIRKWALL	10,320	521	5.05%
13	LONDON CITY	50,525	2,039	4.04%
14	NEWQUAY	6,048	235	3.89%
15	BELFAST CITY (GEORGE BEST)	29,373	1,056	3.60%
16	TEESSIDE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT	3,210	112	3.49%
17	SOUTHAMPTON	17,909	573	3.20%
18	LEEDS BRADFORD	29,281	879	3.00%
19	GUERNSEY	16,131	476	2.95%
20	ABERDEEN	58,049	1,553	2.68%
21	SUMBURGH	11,763	312	2.65%
22	INVERNESS	12,269	313	2.55%
23	EXETER	6,644	164	2.47%
24	GLASGOW	63,878	1,574	2.46%
25	SOUTHEND	994	23	2.31%
26	HEATHROW	463,854	9,789	2.11%
27	GATWICK	257,778	4,767	1.85%
28	JERSEY	18,337	291	1.59%
29	EDINBURGH	111,335	1,748	1.57%
30	CARDIFF WALES	7,764	113	1.46%
31	MANCHESTER	173,688	2,319	1.34%
32	BRISTOL	68,635	876	1.28%
33	NEWCASTLE	35,856	447	1.25%
34	LIVERPOOL (JOHN LENNON)	31,518	375	1.19%
35	BIRMINGHAM	81,049	948	1.17%
36	LUTON	100,380	1,057	1.05%
37	BELFAST INTERNATIONAL	47,748	463	0.97%
38	CITY OF DERRY (EGLINTON)	3,040	26	0.86%
39	NORWICH	14,661	96	0.65%
40	STANSTED	179,193	1,144	0.64%
41	EAST MIDLANDS INTERNATIONAL	48,694	174	0.36%
	Total	1,995,049	36,892	1.85%

Some airports don't give cancellation figures or very low ones as they mainly operate holiday flights, so I have omitted those.  As you can see the Isle of Man's figures weren't great with only the usual suspects (mainly small island airports) doing worse.

To be fair, the top 12 contain some of the worst windswept/shoite weather areas you could possibly live in.

[asitis]

7 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said:

To be fair, the top 12 contain some of the worst windswept/shoite weather areas you could possibly live in.

and many run by HIAL who are also running here !

[IOM]

14 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

Regarding flight cancellations, I've been looking at the figures for 2023 as a whole.  The December figures were published last month and though the CAA consolidated and corrected ones won't be available till later I added up the monthly ones to give provisional annual ones:

	Airport	2023 Total
		Total ATM	Canx	Perc
1	BARRA	1,383	188	13.59%
2	TIREE	1,553	163	10.50%
3	ISLAY	1,355	141	10.41%
4	CAMPBELTOWN	1,057	101	9.56%
5	HUMBERSIDE	4,956	438	8.84%
6	ALDERNEY	4,382	331	7.55%
7	DUNDEE	1,655	94	5.68%
8	WICK JOHN O GROATS	1,128	60	5.32%
9	BENBECULA	2,007	106	5.28%
10	STORNOWAY	5,131	266	5.18%
11	ISLE OF MAN	10,518	541	5.14%
12	KIRKWALL	10,320	521	5.05%
13	LONDON CITY	50,525	2,039	4.04%
14	NEWQUAY	6,048	235	3.89%
15	BELFAST CITY (GEORGE BEST)	29,373	1,056	3.60%
16	TEESSIDE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT	3,210	112	3.49%
17	SOUTHAMPTON	17,909	573	3.20%
18	LEEDS BRADFORD	29,281	879	3.00%
19	GUERNSEY	16,131	476	2.95%
20	ABERDEEN	58,049	1,553	2.68%
21	SUMBURGH	11,763	312	2.65%
22	INVERNESS	12,269	313	2.55%
23	EXETER	6,644	164	2.47%
24	GLASGOW	63,878	1,574	2.46%
25	SOUTHEND	994	23	2.31%
26	HEATHROW	463,854	9,789	2.11%
27	GATWICK	257,778	4,767	1.85%
28	JERSEY	18,337	291	1.59%
29	EDINBURGH	111,335	1,748	1.57%
30	CARDIFF WALES	7,764	113	1.46%
31	MANCHESTER	173,688	2,319	1.34%
32	BRISTOL	68,635	876	1.28%
33	NEWCASTLE	35,856	447	1.25%
34	LIVERPOOL (JOHN LENNON)	31,518	375	1.19%
35	BIRMINGHAM	81,049	948	1.17%
36	LUTON	100,380	1,057	1.05%
37	BELFAST INTERNATIONAL	47,748	463	0.97%
38	CITY OF DERRY (EGLINTON)	3,040	26	0.86%
39	NORWICH	14,661	96	0.65%
40	STANSTED	179,193	1,144	0.64%
41	EAST MIDLANDS INTERNATIONAL	48,694	174	0.36%
	Total	1,995,049	36,892	1.85%

Some airports don't give cancellation figures or very low ones as they mainly operate holiday flights, so I have omitted those.  As you can see the Isle of Man's figures weren't great with only the usual suspects (mainly small island airports) doing worse.

Loganair have been exceptionally poor in the last few weeks . The island needs better than this ! 

[Roger Mexico]

I've also looked at how Ronaldsway fared each month over 2023, compared to the average for all the included airports shown above (which might help take into account factors such as bad weather, more general ATC problems etc).  ATM stands for Air Traffic Movements and I've also shown the percentage points (p/p) difference between the two

Month	Isle of Man			All Airports
	Total ATM	Canx	Perc	Total ATM	Canx	Perc	p/p Diff
Jan	781	16	2.05%	134,412	1,921	1.43%	0.62%
Feb	753	10	1.33%	128,730	2,142	1.66%	-0.33%
Mar	883	96	10.87%	150,865	3,693	2.45%	8.42%
Apr	903	95	10.52%	162,485	2,254	1.39%	9.13%
May	979	46	4.70%	180,379	3,051	1.69%	3.01%
Jun	1,028	59	5.74%	184,277	4,447	2.41%	3.33%
Jul	941	46	4.89%	192,233	3,062	1.59%	3.30%
Aug	880	23	2.61%	193,599	4,874	2.52%	0.09%
Sep	927	60	6.47%	186,076	2,854	1.53%	4.94%
Oct	916	41	4.48%	183,434	3,256	1.78%	2.70%
Nov	771	31	4.02%	146,243	2,085	1.43%	2.59%
Dec	756	18	2.38%	152,316	3,253	2.14%	0.24%
Total	10,518	541	5.14%	1,995,049	36,892	1.85%	3.29%
2022 (#11)	8,842	314	3.55%	1,763,581	28,902	1.64%	1.91%
2021 (#17)	4,612	93	2.02%	831,690	12,047	1.45%	0.57%
2020 (#23)	4,832	183	3.79%	875,406	31,161	3.56%	0.23%
2019 (#20)	13,530	175	1.29%	2,321,170	22,498	0.97%	0.32%
2018 (#18)	14,097	395	2.80%	2,332,538	36,291	1.56%	1.24%

As you can see some months IOM Airport performed quite well against the average, particularly over winter, but others, especially March and April were disasters.  I've also shown the totals for the five years previous, taken from consolidated CAA figures.  2022 was also poor, though not as dramatically, but before then IOM was managing only slightly worse than average

[IOM]

12 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

I've also looked at how Ronaldsway fared each month over 2023, compared to the average for all the included airports shown above (which might help take into account factors such as bad weather, more general ATC problems etc).  ATM stands for Air Traffic Movements and I've also shown the percentage points (p/p) difference between the two

Month	Isle of Man			All Airports
	Total ATM	Canx	Perc	Total ATM	Canx	Perc	p/p Diff
Jan	781	16	2.05%	134,412	1,921	1.43%	0.62%
Feb	753	10	1.33%	128,730	2,142	1.66%	-0.33%
Mar	883	96	10.87%	150,865	3,693	2.45%	8.42%
Apr	903	95	10.52%	162,485	2,254	1.39%	9.13%
May	979	46	4.70%	180,379	3,051	1.69%	3.01%
Jun	1,028	59	5.74%	184,277	4,447	2.41%	3.33%
Jul	941	46	4.89%	192,233	3,062	1.59%	3.30%
Aug	880	23	2.61%	193,599	4,874	2.52%	0.09%
Sep	927	60	6.47%	186,076	2,854	1.53%	4.94%
Oct	916	41	4.48%	183,434	3,256	1.78%	2.70%
Nov	771	31	4.02%	146,243	2,085	1.43%	2.59%
Dec	756	18	2.38%	152,316	3,253	2.14%	0.24%
Total	10,518	541	5.14%	1,995,049	36,892	1.85%	3.29%
2022 (#11)	8,842	314	3.55%	1,763,581	28,902	1.64%	1.91%
2021 (#17)	4,612	93	2.02%	831,690	12,047	1.45%	0.57%
2020 (#23)	4,832	183	3.79%	875,406	31,161	3.56%	0.23%
2019 (#20)	13,530	175	1.29%	2,321,170	22,498	0.97%	0.32%
2018 (#18)	14,097	395	2.80%	2,332,538	36,291	1.56%	1.24%

As you can see some months IOM Airport performed quite well against the average, particularly over winter, but others, especially March and April were disasters.  I've also shown the totals for the five years previous, taken from consolidated CAA figures.  2022 was also poor, though not as dramatically, but before then IOM was managing only slightly worse than average

The overall picture for the full year shows Ronaldsway nearly 3 times worse than the average . No doubt a combination of factors but I think the airlines ( all of them ! ) have a lot to answer for . 

[Non-Believer]

Many factors in there, to include ATC staffing issues and lack of approach lighting for bad weather conditions, both of which ARE DOI responsibilities.

[code99]

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/corporatising-ronaldsway-airport-one-of-a-number-of-options-being-considered-by-doi/

Talking about experts, there are some so-called experts who have been advising that the Airport should “become privately run” . Tynwald should give this daft wheeze zero consideration, unless they want to chalk up some enormous debts and have absolutely no control, IMHO.

[asitis]

12 minutes ago, code99 said:

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/corporatising-ronaldsway-airport-one-of-a-number-of-options-being-considered-by-doi/

Talking about experts, there are some so-called experts who have been advising that the Airport should “become privately run” . Tynwald should give this daft wheeze zero consideration, unless they want to chalk up some enormous debts and have absolutely no control, IMHO.

So does it not constitute a vital lifeline like the port, if so a very bad move !

[newaccount]

They'll corporatise it and say "it will get better with the new management and oversight" rather than say "we've fucked up and will fix the problems we created ourselves"

[Albert Tatlock]

2 hours ago, code99 said:

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/corporatising-ronaldsway-airport-one-of-a-number-of-options-being-considered-by-doi/

Talking about experts, there are some so-called experts who have been advising that the Airport should “become privately run” . Tynwald should give this daft wheeze zero consideration, unless they want to chalk up some enormous debts and have absolutely no control, IMHO.

No company in its right mind would take it on now.

20 years ago, and a say in airline policy and negotiations...maybe.

Now, it's a fools errand.