Andy Onchan Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 10 minutes ago, x-in-man said: It's a private road - it's closed off Xmas Day to keep it a permissible road under the rules. Fixed penalty should be replaced with a fixed fee - of £1000 to leave a car unattended (i.e. Parked) on that stretch of road. Get out and walk away from the driving seat for anything other than opening a door or the boot - the fee is payable. Just slap the invoice payable on the screen. That should cure the issue over night. But they can only do that if they have the legal right to do so. That's why I'm asking do they have that right? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-in-man Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 25 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: But they can only do that if they have the legal right to do so. That's why I'm asking do they have that right? It's a private road. The owner can open and close it, or charge whet ever it likes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 25 minutes ago, x-in-man said: It's a private road. The owner can open and close it, or charge whet ever it likes. Who owns it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderella Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Catching up on the back flip. Bearing in mind that a) they are spineless b) there was never a safety issue - total furphy c) what an incompetent shower. As you are … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 1 hour ago, Mercenary said: Well I will give them a (small) amount of credit for rolling it back in the face of unpopular opinion I would say that it would be untypical of them to care about the public's opinion, but that they eventually read the point (made by me, actually) that the log-jam would move from the front of the airport building to Car Park 1 - thus incurring the wrath of the elite who have paid a premium to be in a traffic queue. And the Youtube videos, if Amadeus is around. 1 hour ago, Mercenary said: Presumably this has come down from Crookall - Was not Crookall the Minister when the £250,000 and can't accept Manx coins announcement was made? Not only that, is there any MHK who is willing to tell a Civil Servant to do an over-night U-turn? Or tell a Civil Servant to do anything (like pay for car parking - I felt I had to add that.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-in-man Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 32 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: Who owns it? The Isle of Man Government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 1 hour ago, Andy Onchan said: But they can only do that if they have the legal right to do so. That's why I'm asking do they have that right? Don't think they can issue parking tickets without the proper paperwork/warrant? Though presumably the DoI could loan them one of the meandering a wardens or are they parking control officers nowadays? Pretty fast U-turn not even 24 hours LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 1 hour ago, x-in-man said: It's a private road. The owner can open and close it, or charge whet ever it likes. My drive is private, but there is no legislation to allow me to issue parking tickets and more importantly enforce them ! This was the problem with double yellow lines on Market Street, they didn't have a supporting order so were unenforceable. JW will know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Is there any signage at the road entrance which specifies what rules apply? I do not see any on Google Street View. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emesde Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 The roads at the airport may be owned by the airport or DOI but they can still be public roads surely. I'm sure JW will be able to clarify this. I'm saying this because I was doing some work at a UK airport years ago and was informed that the roads were regarded as being public roads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 20 minutes ago, emesde said: The roads at the airport may be owned by the airport or DOI but they can still be public roads surely. I'm sure JW will be able to clarify this. I'm saying this because I was doing some work at a UK airport years ago and was informed that the roads were regarded as being public roads Doesn't it depend if they are adopted or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 13 minutes ago, Gladys said: Doesn't it depend if they are adopted or not? Adopted makes them DOIs. They are already DOIs so they can't become theirs twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emesde Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 It may be different on the IOM .but the M6 toll ,for instance, is privately owned but all the same rules apply as any other motorway. Police patrol it and respond in the normal way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 10 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Adopted makes them DOIs. They are already DOIs so they can't become theirs twice. I think adopted makes them public roads and so subject to the rules of the highway. However, I just asked the question. However, if they close the road on Xmas day, it would indicate that they are not adopted as there would have to be a road closure order, I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 5 minutes ago, emesde said: It may be different on the IOM .but the M6 toll ,for instance, is privately owned but all the same rules apply as any other motorway. Police patrol it and respond in the normal way. Possibly specific legislation (or order) for that situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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