Andy Onchan Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 50 minutes ago, The Phantom said: You can't just turn them on and roll them out when a flight is due. You could if there was remote tower handling more than one airport. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringy Rose Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 54 minutes ago, Nellie said: It does make you question whether we need highly paid people in charge of Route Development, Marketing etc. as whatever they are doing, clearly isn't working. Route development and marketing is as much about retaining the existing routes as getting new ones. The fundamental problem is that people want easyJet prices at high frequencies. The two are not compatible. EasyJet have economies of scale so have slightly lower prices but the consequence of that is a heavily reduced frequency. EasyJet’s presence on the Belfast route on a weekend is why Flybe couldn’t make it work and why Emerald couldn’t make it work either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringy Rose Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 1 minute ago, Andy Onchan said: You could if there was remote tower handling more than one airport. That’s not how a remote tower works. AFAIK you can have an ATCO qualified to work on more than one airfield but you can’t have them operating more than one airfield at any one time. The only advantage to a remote tower is, being based in Swanwick, you have access to a wider pool of ATCOs. The big disadvantage is cost. London City’s remote tower cost £25m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfc84 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 peanuts compared to the cost of ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 46 minutes ago, Ringy Rose said: That’s not how a remote tower works. AFAIK you can have an ATCO qualified to work on more than one airfield but you can’t have them operating more than one airfield at any one time. The only advantage to a remote tower is, being based in Swanwick, you have access to a wider pool of ATCOs. The big disadvantage is cost. London City’s remote tower cost £25m. Technology is a wonderful thing. And the way things are going at the moment globally with ATCs, I wouldn't rule anything out. Whatever method of control is used it's going to be expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 I see that the Airport Director's position with his previous employer is still vacant. Have they kept it open for him to return? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfc84 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 4 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: I see that the Airport Director's position with his previous employer is still vacant. Have they kept it open for him to return? A post on FB recently indicated he's going to Qatar. Whether that's true or not I have no idea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 41 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: I see that the Airport Director's position with his previous employer is still vacant. Have they kept it open for him to return? Probably still recovering and haven't bothered again ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 1 hour ago, Andy Onchan said: I see that the Airport Director's position with his previous employer is still vacant. Have they kept it open for him to return? The Managing Director, Inglis Lyon, stood down in April 2023 (the remote ATC was his idea) and they only got a replacement this May. So presumably they've been waiting for the new CEO before making any appointments. The fact that it took them 13 months to get someone doesn't bode well for replacing Cobb. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamon Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 2 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: The Managing Director, Inglis Lyon, stood down in April 2023 (the remote ATC was his idea) and they only got a replacement this May. So presumably they've been waiting for the new CEO before making any appointments. The fact that it took them 13 months to get someone doesn't bode well for replacing Cobb. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredtosser Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 I heard talk today that the DOI have purchased a fleet of electric Volvos for use by the airport fire service to maximise green credentials, but they can't equip them with the necessary safety equipment for airfield use by virtue of them being electric so they are now parked up doing nothing. Wouldn't be at all surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Can't be right they have not long purchased those huge American Oshkosh firetrucks that they couldn't get into the airport fire station the minister at the time said they would provide fire and rescue services for many years to come mind you I would not believe anything the DOI said it seems to be in their Genes , someone will know for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 18 minutes ago, fredtosser said: I heard talk today that the DOI have purchased a fleet of electric Volvos for use by the airport fire service to maximise green credentials, but they can't equip them with the necessary safety equipment for airfield use by virtue of them being electric so they are now parked up doing nothing. Wouldn't be at all surprised. It could be a new reason for the airport to shut for a while - "We did a big training session yesterday, and it's going to take another 12 hours to recharge the batteries" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 12 minutes ago, Two-lane said: It could be a new reason for the airport to shut for a while - "We did a big training session yesterday, and it's going to take another 12 hours to recharge the batteries" hopefully Manx Forums will have a mole in there somewhere a lot of DOI staff are in despair with the management and the truth will come out eventually , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 1 hour ago, Omobono said: Can't be right they have not long purchased those huge American Oshkosh firetrucks But that was as long ago as December 2021. They'll be wanting new toys now. I hope you're not suggesting they might be buying expensive kit they can never use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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