cissolt Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 I read the anonymous post from the farmer, I didn't see any mention of how much money was made from selling the lamb? Nor his much he received by way of government grant? Hard to get the full picture when they only show one side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 Another way of looking at this is that a farmer should be producing 'meat and 2 veg', any side products should be a bonus? If a strawberry grower can produce cream, then hey presto, a double sale but if people chose to get their cream at Tesco, he can hardly complain surely? Problem would be if the sheep farmer is not covering the cost of producing Lamb? How can the Govt help that side of the business? ( Stop Tesco selling imported Lamb??? ). This part of the thread is lamenting the waste of the Wool but how many of us would only buy local Lamb or any other local product??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 40 minutes ago, Kopek said: Another way of looking at this is that a farmer should be producing 'meat and 2 veg', any side products should be a bonus? A slightly different way of putting it, but yes you’re right, is shearing simply part of the upkeep/on going maintenance?, if the fleece cannot be sold (even at a loss) then its cost will surely be covered by being added onto the final cost price of the product? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 8 hours ago, Annoymouse said: A slightly different way of putting it, but yes you’re right, is shearing simply part of the upkeep/on going maintenance?, if the fleece cannot be sold (even at a loss) then its cost will surely be covered by being added onto the final cost price of the product? It might, in a free market, if oversupply was not a factor in price and you had protectionist policies to stop low cost imports. What we have is a price paid to the supplier based on an average price across a number of marts/processors in England ( less very high processing costs per unit, even after a £2 million annual subsidy ) and a depressed price in England due to overproduction, lack of import controls, and the threat of Aus & NZ trade deals. Yet the price on the shelf to the consumer remains high. Go figure. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 heard a whisper today that the abattoir is short of the funds necessary to pay farmers for their stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 36 minutes ago, WTF said: heard a whisper today that the abattoir is short of the funds necessary to pay farmers for their stock And this is why the government keep it at arms length? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 13, 2021 Author Share Posted November 13, 2021 1 hour ago, WTF said: heard a whisper today that the abattoir is short of the funds necessary to pay farmers for their stock But it’s owned by government so they will get paid eventually, probably by asking for a bigger subsidy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 19 minutes ago, Banker said: But it’s owned by government so they will get paid eventually, probably by asking for a bigger subsidy Hard to think an abattoir wouldn't be making a killing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 2 hours ago, WTF said: heard a whisper today that the abattoir is short of the funds necessary to pay farmers for their stock How can that be? It is not as though Manx meat is cheap, or perhaps that is the problem. Where along the supply chain is the profit being gobbled up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 I'm trying to remember how many managers and chairmen the Meat Plant have had who have been tasked with turning it around? They always seem to claim success on purges on staff and working practices etc but it never seems to work without huge Govt subvention? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 13, 2021 Author Share Posted November 13, 2021 They don’t have the volume through the plant to meet all the overheads, probably only solution to save £2m pa us shutting down, however then we are reliant on shipping livestock to uk & carcasses back. suppose they could ban exports of livestock so all farmers have to use meat plant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 At one time, no off island raw meat was allowed to be sold here, all farmers used the abattoir. Supermarkets and the loss of tourism buggered it all up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Max Power said: At one time, no off island raw meat was allowed to be sold here, all farmers used the abattoir. Supermarkets and the loss of tourism buggered it all up! No, it was the loss of the meat derogation. I wonder how much that benefits other areas of export. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Isn't the meat plant just to big and all singing dancing space without ever having the throughput. Bit like the Incinerator and probably the Power station. Wonder if the new test center will be a similar project. Money no object it would seem in these whims of the powers that be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 (edited) Duplicated post Edited November 13, 2021 by Numbnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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