Steve Kelly Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 A very wise friend compared the latest war by Israel as akin to a five year old trying to fight a heavyweight boxer who didn't hold his punches while using precision weapons and incendiaries in the world's most densely populated area. Don't take my word for it. Read the EU report on it. Gaza remains an effective concentration camp. Where's the UN condemnation? And, no, this isn't about religion. It's one of the most disgusting disparities in wealth anywhere. The rich are stealing family businesses with impunity. Wasn't there a lot of press in the local stuff about Isle of Man and its foreign aid budget. I'd like to hear our future leaders on that. You've all Google, check it out and do something, they need it. Pray for peace. War will only make it worse. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Leave it to the US to sort out. Which they inevitably will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 38 minutes ago, Steve Kelly said: The rich are stealing family businesses with impunity. What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Kelly Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 Olive farms, tomato farms, often which have been in that family for generations have been marked for 'settlement'. No doubt that this has occurred. And just to be clear, I wasn't referring to anyone as a troll however one or two people have been quite public about 'charity begins at home' so I repeated myself in local news. It's a view I have heard though more frequently from people who wouldn't be happy putting it in writing with their real name. If just one or two of us could raise a few hundred pounds (and yes I know it's not been great) a real impact on real people could happen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Kelly Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Derek Flint said: Leave it to the US to sort out. Which they inevitably will. Quite. The fear they have (and ability to make it happen) is the concept of the 'Shia Crescent' stretching from a minority area in Afghanistan to Iran, Iraq, Syria (Alawite leaders but few Shia) and Lebanon. That will definitely create greater military spending I would think. The world needs to realise the suffering going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Whilst Hamas remain in power there will be no peace negotiations. The only person who the Israeli's seem to trust is Mahmoud Abbas. Until there's a change in leadership then there'll be the need for direct third country intervention. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Thread in international news about this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 21 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Thread in international news about this Your right but there may be a local connection ………. a bit far fetched ……… maybe parts in weapons used are manufactured on the Island? Or could the OP be a member of the Manx Labour Party and they are adding their 2 shekels worth - Crets probably an expert on International diplomacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 41 minutes ago, Steve Kelly said: Quite. The fear they have (and ability to make it happen) is the concept of the 'Shia Crescent' stretching from a minority area in Afghanistan to Iran, Iraq, Syria (Alawite leaders but few Shia) and Lebanon. That will definitely create greater military spending I would think. The world needs to realise the suffering going on Military spending is brilliant, it may have a knock on effect creating more work for the IOMs Aerospace Cluster and it’s many Engineering businesses, which I’m sure laid off workers during the pandemic. There is money to be made and the IOM should be at the front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Kelly Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 I made it quite clear why the same point was in two fora- the local element was that there was negative sentiment to us sending aid. My point is whether you can find a legitimately better case to try to alleviate their suffering. Can you? Sure the British Aerospace at Wharton will have lots of £££ dreams about their persistent surveillance abilities and so on. We have lots of gambling here so why not go all in? How would you have felt though if you'd been on the wrong side of a huge breakthrough in peace and say.. advocated for the Berlin Wall to stay up, Nelson Mandela remained in prison until he died? I can assure you I'm not blind to the realpolitik however your comment about Hamas simply proves to me that you don't understand the situation. I haven't got the time right now to do that but just think over my original point - their suffering is intense, surely a few of us could raise enough money which would go a very long way to improving life. We are talking about malnutrition, water, education in a place quite near where a lot of us have been on holiday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Steve Kelly said: We have lots of gambling here... We don't call it gambling. We call it gaming. Cuddly, fluffy fun, lucrative gaming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhumsaa Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Derek Flint said: Leave it to the US to sort out. Which they inevitably will. "sort out" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Kelly Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 Apologies, I combined Andy Onchan's comment about Hamas and attributed it to 2112. And no, that's my real name, have absolutely no links to any political parties and no intentions. But maybe when they do come round looking for votes, put that to them. It's going to be great for business here won't it, this war that's starting. And ask them to quantify it. And ask them then if aid to Palestine is appropriate and quantify that. If you believe they will keep your interests upmost on their agenda I've got a bridge to sell... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rhumsaa said: "sort out" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Kelly Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Barlow said: We don't call it gambling. We call it gaming. Cuddly, fluffy fun, lucrative gaming. Yeah, like war, when the fun stops, fight harder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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