The Voice of Reason Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) In his manifesto SP says that more affordable Steam Packet fares would encourage the young to stay here. Surely the opposite is true, it’s the less affordable fares that are keeping them here Edited September 5, 2021 by The Voice of Reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Surely the opposite is true, it’s the less affordable fares that are keeping them here It isn't too expensive to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: In his manifesto SP says that more affordable Steam Packet fares would encourage the young to stay here. Surely the opposite is true, it’s the less affordable fares that are keeping them here I’m sure he means that more affordable fares allows frequent travel to see friends & families so don’t need to move, however subsidizing fares to encourage travel is costly & there’s a c£120m debt to finance plus new boat Edited September 5, 2021 by Banker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiran Hannifin Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 49 minutes ago, Fluffy123 said: What motivation would they have to stand then? Honestly there’s easier ways to earn £65k That depends on if when in, the new mhks do their job. Under this new scheme, what is to stop anyone not answering their emails, and showing up to tynwald to be silent? That's a pretty easy job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Peters Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 47 minutes ago, Banker said: I’m sure he means that more affordable fares allows frequent travel to see friends & families so don’t need to move, however subsidizing fares to encourage travel is costly & there’s a c£120m debt to finance plus new boat My view is that the SPC is operating lots of near empty boats. On the basis they have to be staffed anyway and use the same amount of fuel, why not offer massive price cuts to holidaymakers (who I've been told for years don't come because of the ferry prices) who book accommodation or car hire as part of a deal? You'd have to be careful of substitution, so maybe just off-peak sailings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy123 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 52 minutes ago, Keiran Hannifin said: That depends on if when in, the new mhks do their job. Under this new scheme, what is to stop anyone not answering their emails, and showing up to tynwald to be silent? That's a pretty easy job You miss the point. Who would actually stand to be an MHK with the intention to just spend 5 years doing nothing. Sorry but that’s very very synical. Love or hate who we have or who is standing, but they all do it because the my think they can make a difference in there. It’s not an easy route to MHK - why go through all that effort to then just sit on your fat ass? I’m sure there will be loads of ‘he did that, she did that’ with examples. But unless you’re in there you don’t know what goes in behind the scenes. Not everyone gets news time. Not everyone publishes every minute of their day on social media. sorry I just think that anyone who stands should be given a fair crack of the whip. And they can choose their own way of doing things. I really can say there is on candidate who is in it just for the money, and to have 5 years off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 15 minutes ago, Fluffy123 said: Who would actually stand to be an MHK with the intention to just spend 5 years doing nothing Geoff Corkish. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, Fluffy123 said: It’s not an easy route to MHK - why go through all that effort to then just sit on your fat ass? You should address that question to Ann Corlett and Martyn Perkins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 I’ve heard good things about Ann and that she does a lot for people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Amadeus said: I’ve heard good things about Ann and that she does a lot for people. I've no doubt she's a nice person. Her contributions to Tynwald over 5 years have been small, very small. Some people might suggest that a politician not saying much would be a good thing, but there's got to be something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatRoundMiddle Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 12 minutes ago, Stu Peters said: My view is that the SPC is operating lots of near empty boats. On the basis they have to be staffed anyway and use the same amount of fuel, why not offer massive price cuts to holidaymakers (who I've been told for years don't come because of the ferry prices) who book accommodation or car hire as part of a deal? You'd have to be careful of substitution, so maybe just off-peak sailings. The steam packet runs every day for freight of course many boats are low on passengers as people want to travel around the weekend, school holidays or in the summer months, fares are already reduced off-peak, those who don't come because of ferry prices are looking to come when everyone else is, dropping the price further for off-peak would not fill the boats it would lose money hand over fist. But wait no lets build those made up extra tourists a mega million pie in the sky dry ski slope, a monorail and some zip lines. Of course they will be a gold mine despite being inaccessible 4 weeks of the year when TT / MGP is on or when ever there is a road closure for TT works, and closed most of the winter due to road conditions, poor visibilty and high winds You are just less overtly oddball than David Fowler but he seems to have the less fuckwitted ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Banker said: I’m sure he means that more affordable fares allows frequent travel to see friends & families so don’t need to move, however subsidizing fares to encourage travel is costly & there’s a c£120m debt to finance plus new boat But he’s talking about young people, the majority of which I would imagine have their friends and families here on the Island Edited September 5, 2021 by The Voice of Reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 Anyone noticed how many David Fowler posters there are along main roads? Feels like driving through Baghdad in the late 80s, except instead of Saddam, they put up pictures of a Payne Stewart impersonator. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Amadeus said: Anyone noticed how many David Fowler posters there are along main roads? Feels like driving through Baghdad in the late 80s, except instead of Saddam, they put up pictures of a Payne Stewart impersonator. Yes commented yesterday on that, every 50/60 yards on a stretch from mount Murray back road junction to cooil church 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatRoundMiddle Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Just now, Banker said: Yes commented yesterday on that, every 50/60 yards on a stretch from mount Murray back road junction to cooil church He was nomiated by Bobby Sadler, probably on the basis of a bulk order of stakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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