SleepyJoe Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 I agree @Lost Login Government membership should be limited to 11 members at max, with the balance - excluding the Speaker & Deputy Speaker - forming an opposition & electing an official Leader of the Opposition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Peters Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Lost Login said: You mean pretty much as they do already as you would realise from 10 seconds research. https://www.steam-packet.com/offers/Cars?__SPCoWinID=28b3123a-b874-4f4a-a672-43c42b78d422 My family from the UK make very good use of them. i also generally make pretty good use of them, but not in the last 18 months, and in general I find SP fares pretty good if not travelling at peak time and you have a few days flexibility I appreciate that there are good deals outside TT/FOM, but for the last 18 years hosting phone-in programmes the most common gripe when we talk about boosting our tourist trade is the cost of the ferry. To me its at least worth a punt, and more importantly it would be predicated on a quid pro quo deal to benefit the wider economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatRoundMiddle Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Lost Login said: You mean pretty much as they do already as you would realise from 10 seconds research. https://www.steam-packet.com/offers/Cars?__SPCoWinID=28b3123a-b874-4f4a-a672-43c42b78d422 My family from the UK make very good use of them. i also generally make pretty good use of them, but not in the last 18 months, and in general I find SP fares pretty good if not travelling at peak time and you have a few days flexibility It does not really matter, Stu is not interested in actual facts or thought here, he is just trying to regurgitate what he thinks are popular perceptions based on the idiots who felt at home on his show over the years to secure a big lump of wonga. It's all cynical like Trump. Did he really give up a 21 year career in Radio to stand, didn't Manx Radio give up on him, moving to the late show was just a way to get him off air, its all very civil how they do things up there like when they eulogised the former presenter of the late show who had been caught with downloading Kiddie pics. The very sudden 'leaving to stand for election' reminds me of something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Anyone who denies that climate change is attributable at all to man made actions, has their head in the sand. Especially someone who must have grown up in an industrial area bellowing tons of pollution into the atmosphere 24/7 for over a century. Reticence is indeed a virtue on such a thorny subject, laden with so many opposed opinions and emotions. Unless one is a qualified experienced professional on the subject (failing that, informed, well spoken, obfuscation and waffle will do). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatRoundMiddle Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 21 minutes ago, Barlow said: Anyone who denies that climate change is attributable at all to man made actions, has their head in the sand. Especially someone who must have grown up in an industrial area bellowing tons of pollution into the atmosphere 24/7 for over a century. No thats just cynical stu, after more of the easy money he has become accustomed to, facts don't matter he chunders out this becuase he knows it is what some idiots like to hear. He has nothing to offer, no family here and no vested interest in the future other than his own finances. #GiveStutheMiddleFinger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiran Hannifin Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 3 hours ago, The Phantom said: You're growing on me Keiran.... However, haven't all the (NHS) GPs on Island stated they wouldn't prescribe Cannabis? Can you get private prescriptions over here? Bear in mind these are the same people doing the vast majority of their consultations online/phone now. The only people being protected are themselves - but that's a whole different different gripe! I originally thought that too. From an FOI request 19 GPs responded (less than 50%) in December 2019 We claim to be in line with the UK, If that's the case, GPs cannot prescribe anyway and you need a specialist doctor. So, a GP not being interested is moot. Plus, a doctor having the say is a tail wagging the dog. In the UK 1000s of private prescriptions are paid each month. Usually by a team such as this : https://integroclinics.com/who-we-are/meet-the-team/ This, is STILL not good enough and only allows medicine for those who can afford it. But, it is at least a step in the right direction. Here's a piece I recently wrote about this. https://www.facebook.com/102257088544666/posts/196280649142309/?sfnsn=mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiran Hannifin Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, FatRoundMiddle said: When is the next show? That Laurel and Hardy pair crack me up. Tonight at Braddan school. 7pm. I do hope people are not just coming for comedy value 😂 Edited September 6, 2021 by Keiran Hannifin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiran Hannifin Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Lost Login said: I think that anybody elected should be prepared to take part in Government but that depends on whether you agree to the Government's policies or be given sufficient freedom to vote against. The changes I would like to see are that there a maximum number of MHK's allowed to take up a government role and no MLC allowed to. I would also likely to see a change to the collective responsibility rules so that where the Council of Ministers pass something with 3 or more voting against then it should be a free vote in the chamber. Provided its in your manifesto, no department head or minister can stop you voting on an agenda. Pledges outweigh collective responsibility. Hence why my manifesto is 8 pages long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Login Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Stu Peters said: I appreciate that there are good deals outside TT/FOM, but for the last 18 years hosting phone-in programmes the most common gripe when we talk about boosting our tourist trade is the cost of the ferry. To me its at least worth a punt, and more importantly it would be predicated on a quid pro quo deal to benefit the wider economy. Jesus wept. You are basing your ideas on what people moaned about on a phone is show. A show which you have admitted on here in the past that you did no research for or know what the topic was once your hours were cut and became a freelancer. I would have thought just out of personal pride and natural curiosity let alone not wishing to sound like an ill informed ignoramus anybody wanting to host such a show would insist on doing at least some very basic research first. Your apparent lack of wishing to be informed or learn about matters is one of the reason's I think you are totally unsuited to being an MHK. I don't want an MHK who basically says "I think I agree with that" and does not think anymore about it if it fits in with his world view. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 10 minutes ago, Keiran Hannifin said: I originally thought that too. From an FOI request 19 GPs responded (less than 50%) in December 2019 We claim to be in line with the UK, If that's the case, GPs cannot prescribe anyway and you need a specialist doctor. So, a GP not being interested is moot. Plus, a doctor having the say is a tail wagging the dog. In the UK 1000s of private prescriptions are paid each month. Usually by a team such as this : https://integroclinics.com/who-we-are/meet-the-team/ This, is STILL not good enough and only allows medicine for those who can afford it. But, it is at least a step in the right direction. Here's a piece I recently wrote about this. https://www.facebook.com/102257088544666/posts/196280649142309/?sfnsn=mo Should completely leave GPs out of it. It's unfair. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Login Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Just now, Keiran Hannifin said: Provided its in your manifesto, no department head or minister can stop you voting on an agenda. Pledges outweigh collective responsibility. Hence why my manifesto is 8 pages long. I appreciate that but most manifesto's are not that detailed and matters arise and circumstances change over a 5 year period. Additionally over a period MHK's/Ministers become better informed on matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Login Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 1 hour ago, SleepyJoe said: I agree @Lost Login Government membership should be limited to 11 members at max, with the balance - excluding the Speaker & Deputy Speaker - forming an opposition & electing an official Leader of the Opposition I really dislike the phrase "opposition" in IoM politics. I don't think has a place until political parties are elected. MHK's should support good policy and ideas and oppose bad ideas. Presently virtually all those elected are independents so should be free to act as they see fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Keiran Hannifin said: Provided its in your manifesto, no department head or minister can stop you voting on an agenda. They can't stop you voting but they can sack you from your position and reduce your earnings considerably (though less so in the new Keys). That's exactly what happened when Chris Thomas was sacked. And he wasn't even sacked by Quayle but by the Chief Secretary who decided that what was in the manifesto didn't count. Edited September 6, 2021 by Roger Mexico 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 32 minutes ago, Keiran Hannifin said: Provided its in your manifesto, no department head or minister can stop you voting on an agenda. Pledges outweigh collective responsibility. Hence why my manifesto is 8 pages long. *Meant as constructive criticism. Less is probably more in a mannifesto. It should be effectively an executive summary. I'd warrant not many people would trawl through 8 pages. In my opinion your well thought out and rational responses on here are proving quite endearing. Keep it up. If you transition this into the hustings, then you're definitely in with a chance. I'd pegged you as a bit of a wildcard initially.... I'm pleasantly surprised. 🤘 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Lost Login said: I really dislike the phrase "opposition" in IoM politics. I don't think has a place until political parties are elected. MHK's should support good policy and ideas and oppose bad ideas. Presently virtually all those elected are independents so should be free to act as they see fit. A lot of people don't like the word opposition in Manx politics That's why we don't have one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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