display name Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, John Wright said: he took solace in drink. Fit in with the local demographic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Lamb Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 Our Andy's back in the news - benefit fraud this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 12 hours ago, Harry Lamb said: Our Andy's back in the news - benefit fraud this time. Pleaded guilty then posted on Facebook how he was innocent haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: Pleaded guilty then posted on Facebook how he was innocent haha If all our criminals were as thick as him, we'd have no need for a police force... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxman1234 Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 Just amazed he up for something else again. He needs some help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 He got off lightly considering the amount he had received probably paying it back now at a tenner out of benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Manxman1234 said: Just amazed he up for something else again. He needs some help. Suspect they will be naming a courtroom after him soon. Hopefully, not the one with the big windows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 As reported in IOM Newspapers it's fairly astonishing: The offences were committed between December 2015 and October 2021, and resulted in an overpayment of £36,491 in benefits. Fenton had pleaded guilty on an agreed basis that the claim for benefit had not been fraudulent from the outset. The court heard that Fenton’s initial claim for incapacity support had been genuine due to an injury. But he had gone on to claim a variety of benefits without disclosing that he was sole owner of Window Wizard. There seems to have been no attempt to claim any of this money back at even a nominal rate, something I've seen in every other similar case. He just seems to have been given yet another suspended sentence (that never get activated, no matter how many times he's convicted) and been given yet another 'last chance'. It's not even the first time he's been in court recently. He was accused of breaching parole recently and yet when it came before the court the prosecution offered no evidence. Though, confusingly, the papers also reported a sentencing date. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: As reported in IOM Newspapers it's fairly astonishing: The offences were committed between December 2015 and October 2021, and resulted in an overpayment of £36,491 in benefits. Fenton had pleaded guilty on an agreed basis that the claim for benefit had not been fraudulent from the outset. The court heard that Fenton’s initial claim for incapacity support had been genuine due to an injury. But he had gone on to claim a variety of benefits without disclosing that he was sole owner of Window Wizard. There seems to have been no attempt to claim any of this money back at even a nominal rate, something I've seen in every other similar case. He just seems to have been given yet another suspended sentence (that never get activated, no matter how many times he's convicted) and been given yet another 'last chance'. It's not even the first time he's been in court recently. He was accused of breaching parole recently and yet when it came before the court the prosecution offered no evidence. Though, confusingly, the papers also reported a sentencing date. And you wonder why nobody has any faith in our judicial system 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipper99 Posted April 2, 2023 Author Share Posted April 2, 2023 6 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: There seems to have been no attempt to claim any of this money back at even a nominal rate, something I've seen in every other similar case. It’s possible that he has already signed an agreement to repay. 6 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: It's not even the first time he's been in court recently. He was accused of breaching parole recently and yet when it came before the court the prosecution offered no evidence. Though, confusingly, the papers also reported a sentencing date. If you look at the dates it’s possible ( probable ) that it’s piss poor reporting. And it was probation, not parole. 5 hours ago, Passing Time said: And you wonder why nobody has any faith in our judicial system In reports about previous sentencing ( if they can be relied on ) the fact he has sole parenting responsibility has been referred to. Difficult balance, community sentence/custody/putting a child in care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 8 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: There seems to have been no attempt to claim any of this money back at even a nominal rate, something I've seen in every other similar case. Where there is a dispute about the amount the correct path is via the Social Security Appeal Tribunal. Just means that in most cases you see there is no dispute. 2 hours ago, Kipper99 said: It’s possible that he has already signed an agreement to repay See above. 2 hours ago, Kipper99 said: t's not even the first time he's been in court recently. He was accused of breaching parole recently and yet when it came before the court the prosecution offered no evidence. Though, confusingly, the papers also reported a sentencing date. 2 hours ago, Kipper99 said: If you look at the dates it’s possible ( probable ) that it’s piss poor reporting. And it was probation, not parole. Looks as if the breach probation was withdrawn on the same date he admitted the benefit offences, and was committed to General Gaol for sentence on those. If I’d been prosecuting I might have taken the pragmatic view that in the scheme of things it was better to leave sentencing to the Deemster. The likely sentence for first breach of probation is no action or an extension of the probation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Lamb Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 12 hours ago, thommo2010 said: Pleaded guilty then posted on Facebook how he was innocent haha Wasn't running a window business - he was framed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 27 minutes ago, Harry Lamb said: Wasn't running a window business - he was framed. They saw right through him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 On 4/1/2023 at 7:36 AM, Harry Lamb said: Our Andy's back in the news - benefit fraud this time. Was he still out last week? He’s the sort of raving loon who could happily ring in a bomb warning at a school if he thought paedo drag queens were there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 13 hours ago, Kipper99 said: In reports about previous sentencing ( if they can be relied on ) the fact he has sole parenting responsibility has been referred to. Difficult balance, community sentence/custody/putting a child in care. If it's true then that child should be taken off him. He's a shit role model as a parent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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