Apple Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 Found this which presumably is still in force despite the authorship; https://www.hospice.org.im/assets/About-Hospice/Strategy/863d8ea97c/Island-Plan-for-Integrated-Palliative-and-End-of-Life-Care.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Jersey approves principle of legalising assisted dying https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-jersey-59391501 Just saw this on the BBC news website. Jersey hope to vote things through for 2023. I’m sure it won’t be long before those on IOMNP Facebook page will be shouting and screaming for the island to copy Jersey. Meanwhile our esteemed politicos and civil servants at the Starship Enterprise will be looking intently on creating Suicide Tourism, our own version of Dignitas. Think of the potential - touch of sarcasm added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Peters Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Too serious to joke about or try to score points, but if the UK doesn't introduce their own legislation and we do, I think the IOM would be preferable to many over Switzerland (or wherever). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 22 minutes ago, Stu Peters said: Too serious to joke about or try to score points, but if the UK doesn't introduce their own legislation and we do, I think the IOM would be preferable to many over Switzerland (or wherever). Yes preferable to those living in the UK seeking legalized assisting dying( I assume you meant that?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Peters Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 hours ago, 2112 said: Jersey approves principle of legalising assisted dying https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-jersey-59391501 Just saw this on the BBC news website. Jersey hope to vote things through for 2023. I’m sure it won’t be long before those on IOMNP Facebook page will be shouting and screaming for the island to copy Jersey. Meanwhile our esteemed politicos and civil servants at the Starship Enterprise will be looking intently on creating Suicide Tourism, our own version of Dignitas. Think of the potential - touch of sarcasm added. The question is, what is more human? Allowing terminally ill people to end their suffering on their terms, or to keep their heart beating as long as possible, whilst much of the rest fades away, often in awful and painful circumstance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Stu Peters said: Too serious to joke about or try to score points, but if the UK doesn't introduce their own legislation and we do, I think the IOM would be preferable to many over Switzerland (or wherever). be interesting to see what jersey do to get around the medical profession and the hippocratic oath and how that sits with medics who are regulated by the BMA , people may eventually have a choice ,but I think its many years off yet ,we have a first class palliative care service thanks to hospice , 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSM Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Omobono said: be interesting to see what jersey do to get around the medical profession and the hippocratic oath and how that sits with medics who are regulated by the BMA , people may eventually have a choice ,but I think its many years off yet ,we have a first class palliative care service thanks to hospice , Medics aren’t regulated by the BMA, it is our trade union. (And has recently moved to a neutral position on assisted dying) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Stu Peters said: Too serious to joke about or try to score points, but if the UK doesn't introduce their own legislation and we do, I think the IOM would be preferable to many over Switzerland (or wherever). To be fair I may have read your post all wrong and I think you have chosen your words carefully. But it's interesting that in potentially introducing a law which would end needless suffering of many of our own people, your motivation appears to be making money from the people who would come here to use it. I hope Jersey's motivation was more honourable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Peters Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said: To be fair I may have read your post all wrong and I think you have chosen your words carefully. But it's interesting that in potentially introducing a law which would end needless suffering of many of our own people, your motivation appears to be making money from the people who would come here to use it. I hope Jersey's motivation was more honourable. Believe me, my motives are completely honourable, having lost both parents to cancer and seeing that palliative care isn't always the best option for EOL patients. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Wouldn't it be about the convenience, less travel for an already sick and dying individual? Also less costs for relatives travelling and repatriation of the dead body thereafter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Just now, Stu Peters said: Believe me, my motives are completely honourable, having lost both parents to cancer and seeing that palliative care isn't always the best option for EOL patients. I would agree with you there, and for what it's worth I think it is to be applauded that a serving politician posts on here giving and explaining their opinion whatever that opinion is. As a Manx politician though, I do find it strange that your first thought when weighing up a potential assisted dying law would be with the people of the UK. Not that I would be against them using it and would be delighted if it alleviated suffering there too. Perhaps you could explain why this was, and if you'd include the service as part of our reciprocal health agreement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, quilp said: Wouldn't it be about the convenience, less travel for an already sick and dying individual? Also less costs for relatives travelling and repatriation of the dead body thereafter. It would, but the UK has many shortcomings regarding health, why do you think we should legislate to address this one specifically? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said: It would, but the UK has many shortcomings regarding health, why do you think we should legislate to address this one specifically? Perhaps because the best gift in life is to be able to leave it on your own terms? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Just now, Gladys said: Perhaps because the best gift in life is to be able to leave it on your own terms? I agree, it just confuses me why we would be motivated to legislate primarily by a need in the UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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