finlo Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Apple said: ....that may be so but the Manx minority should be able to hold their own surely ? I trust them. But it comes down to numbers at the end of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 2 hours ago, joebean said: Let's not forget what his experience actually is. He has sat in Tynwald for a few years and during that time he has been Minister for Home Affairs. This is such a light role that Graham Cregeen can be placed in it. The thing about Home Affairs is that it can get away with being given to an absolute plank because the bits can more or less run themselves. Hence Cregeen and indeed Malarkey. But, like any other Department it's also possible for a Minister to be much more interventionist - just because it can run on autopilot it doesn't mean it has to. I get the impression that Watterson was a much more hands-on Minister - at least Flinty complained about it enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 hour ago, finlo said: Well we all know the majority of the populace are naive gullible and dare I say a little bit thick! Not in my experience. What is naive is throwing insults at those who hold a different viewpoint to yourself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebean Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 10 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: The thing about Home Affairs is that it can get away with being given to an absolute plank because the bits can more or less run themselves. Hence Cregeen and indeed Malarkey. But, like any other Department it's also possible for a Minister to be much more interventionist - just because it can run on autopilot it doesn't mean it has to. I get the impression that Watterson was a much more hands-on Minister - at least Flinty complained about it enough. There is very little opportunity to be inteventionist in the Department. The Chief Constable and Prison Governor might have to pay a little lip service to the ideas the Minister might come up with but the statutory authority rests with them, not the Minister. It would be a little iritating to have a Minister for Home Affairs that might think he can influence the way the Constabulary or the Prison is run, but that would be a very minor issue amongst the real work of either service. The Minister might be able to exert some influence over resourcing but I would very much doubt that any Minister would want to make any significant funding decisions that would have a real impact on the way the Police, Prison and Probation or Fire Service operates. As I said before it is a very light role that can only fiddle in the margins. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 The vote is happening. Imagine voting for skelly and thinking you've done right by your constituents 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Skelly is the new President. Crickey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 1 minute ago, TheTeapot said: The vote is happening. Imagine voting for skelly and thinking you've done right by your constituents Skelly - 20 votes Watterson - 12 votes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Skelly. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 20-12! That's a very funny slap to the face of Watterson and a damning indictment of our politics 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, skins said: Skelly - 20 votes Watterson - 12 votes Watterson's clearly the more qualified for the job. Do we know who the twenty are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) The gravy train rolls on... It's not about previous record or achievement in office. It's not about the best qualified person for the job. It's about #clubtynwald. And we're all paying for it. Edited July 20, 2021 by Non-Believer extra bit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b4mbi Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Just now, Declan said: Watterson's clearly the more qualified for the job. Do we know who the twenty are? I suspect members favour Laurence's personality over Juan's. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 1 minute ago, b4mbi said: I suspect members favour Laurence's personality over Juan's. Do we get to see the voting results? Not enough lodge members to vote Juan in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 22 minutes ago, Apple said: Skelly is the new President. Crickey Crikey, he's crickey right enough. lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 The next question is - is Spuan Juan standing in Rushen again? There must be a load of candidates lined up? If he gets reelected will he stand for again for Mr Squeaker, or my guess is he will sit on the sidelines embittered and snipe away. Perhaps im wrong? Perhaps he will stand to be Chief Minister, but based on today’s vote, maybe not, but in Manx Politics who knows! Let’s face it Rob Callister could be the next Chief Minister? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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