Non-Believer Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 6 hours ago, Shake me up Judy said: Prize for the best caption contest. Get to it everyone. We've all suspected that IL has been off the rails for a long time... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 I think you would be hard pushed to find a tram and rail network with a safety record as good as the Isle of Man. Even modern trams sometimes jump the rails and derail or have incidents with other vehicles. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/metrolink-services-temporarily-halted-ashton-20539209 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, manxman1980 said: I think you would be hard pushed to find a tram and rail network with a safety record as good as the Isle of Man. Even modern trams sometimes jump the rails and derail or have incidents with other vehicles. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/metrolink-services-temporarily-halted-ashton-20539209 If you take the number of passenger miles and the number of rolling stock units/miles into account the IOM tram & rail network will be at, or near, the top of the list for worst safety record in the world. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanShimmin Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 59 minutes ago, John Wright said: If you take the number of passenger miles and the number of rolling stock units/miles into account the IOM tram & rail network will be at, or near, the top of the list for worst safety record in the world. It's only down to pure luck that nobody has been killed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 45 minutes ago, AlanShimmin said: It's only down to pure luck that nobody has been killed. 13 minutes ago, Roxanne said: How many times have we said that. Which suggests that it is not pure luck and that the safety measures are effective. Sure, it would be better not to have derailments and runaways but you cannot eliminate every hazard and risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 38 minutes ago, manxman1980 said: Which suggests that it is not pure luck and that the safety measures are effective. Sure, it would be better not to have derailments and runaways but you cannot eliminate every hazard and risk. That is true, but do the drivers have to meet any competence standards and if it was IL who was driving, has he? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) . Edited July 18, 2021 by Barlow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, manxman1980 said: Which suggests that it is not pure luck and that the safety measures are effective. Sure, it would be better not to have derailments and runaways but you cannot eliminate every hazard and risk. http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=47456&headline=Runaway tram travelled 1.4km and reached 44mph§ionIs=news&searchyear=2019 44mph 1.4km That's pure luck that no one was injured or killed. Nothing else Edited July 17, 2021 by snowman 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 4 hours ago, ellanvannin2010 said: Sonetimes you do not get far from the start. From long time ago That must be very many years ago, as there’s a horse tram in the background! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanShimmin Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, manxman1980 said: Which suggests that it is not pure luck and that the safety measures are effective. Sure, it would be better not to have derailments and runaways but you cannot eliminate every hazard and risk. It suggests that they have been extremely lucky. I'm sure the maintenance records and daily checks for the tram in question will be forthcoming and available to the public. I hear at least one person went to hospital due to this incident. There's virtually zero scrutiny. Edited July 17, 2021 by AlanShimmin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 4 hours ago, ellanvannin2010 said: Sonetimes you do not get far from the start. From long time ago Slight error with the points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarley Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 19 minutes ago, AlanShimmin said: It suggests that they have been extremely lucky. I'm sure the maintenance records and daily checks for the tram in question will be forthcoming and available to the public. I hear at least one person went to hospital due to this incident. There's virtually zero scrutiny. I heard it was Mrs Longworth with a broken shoulder. Allegedly she was stood next to him when he went off the rails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, Zarley said: I heard it was Mrs Longworth with a broken shoulder. Allegedly she was stood next to him when he went off the rails. He went "off the rails" years ago! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 15 hours ago, finlo said: Which end has derailed as both bogies appear to be on the tracks! it split the points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 11 hours ago, Zarley said: I heard it was Mrs Longworth with a broken shoulder. Allegedly she was stood next to him when he went off the rails. I’m sure the official report will say she was seated along with the rest of the passengers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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