Roger Mexico Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, monasqueen said: For comparative purposes, there is an inquest report just out into the fatal tram crash in Croydon in 2016, where the tram was going excessively fast. It appears that the driver may not have been sleeping too well. I'd also read the linked background news item on the subject that shows the role RAIB takes in these investigations and the changes that have already been implemented. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 3 hours ago, monasqueen said: For comparative purposes, there is an inquest report just out into the fatal tram crash in Croydon in 2016, where the tram was going excessively fast. It appears that the driver may not have been sleeping too well. The verdict was that it was an accident. "The inquest heard that the tram went into a very tight corner, just before the tram stop, at 73km/h (45mph). The speed limit was 20km/h (12mph). " "The foreman of the jury said: "The tram driver became disorientated, which caused loss of awareness in his surroundings, probably due to a lack of sleep. "As a result of which, the driver failed to brake in time and drove his tram towards a tight curve at excessive speed. "The tram left the rails and overturned on to its right side, as a result of which the deceased [were] ejected from the tram and killed."" Jeez, we were on a tram going round that corner the day before. Blimey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Don't worry Doc. the track before and after the accident site are 'Accident Free Zones' !!! The driver is not suspended apparently? Tho what his wife has to say about the hedge trip ?????????????? Speed is the conjecture. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 7:24 PM, Kopek said: The driver is not suspended apparently? Tho what his wife has to say about the hedge trip ?????????????? Speed is the conjecture. I thought that it was customary for Mr Longworth to suspend any driver involved in an accident pending an inquiry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 18 minutes ago, Max Power said: I thought that it was customary for Mr Longworth to suspend any driver involved in an accident pending an inquiry? I heard that he sacked them regardless of fault! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 If he can sack himself that would be good news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightening McQueen Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Rumour has it, Mr Longworth it at the controls of an approaching tram! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Longshanks really should stop driving the trains............................. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Any news on the previous tram accidents, or is it is a case of ‘state secret’? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, 2112 said: Any news on the previous tram accidents, or is it is a case of ‘state secret’? Covered up I assume, no fare paying passengers so does it need formal investigation ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Banker said: Covered up I assume, no fare paying passengers so does it need formal investigation ? That cannot be right, can it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, Banker said: Covered up I assume, no fare paying passengers so does it need formal investigation ? What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Banker said: Covered up I assume, 46 minutes ago, Gladys said: That cannot be right, can it? 40 minutes ago, quilp said: What? Like this. LITERALLY covered up. Edited August 21, 2021 by TheTeapot 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake Up Call Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 The tram crash is what you get to see. Behind the scenes, there is a department completely out of control in respect to how they treat people, the public and spend OUR money. None of the transport 'strategy' was ever debated in parliament. This is the most bonkers approach to running a transport system. Idiots taking the piss. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, Wake Up Call said: The tram crash is what you get to see. Behind the scenes, there is a department completely out of control in respect to how they treat people, the public and spend OUR money. None of the transport 'strategy' was ever debated in parliament. This is the most bonkers approach to running a transport system. Idiots taking the piss. Completely agree with one of the most top heavy management structures ever seen, ranks alongside cabinet office for management & salaries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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