AlanShimmin Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: I don’t know anything about this stuff so I’d be grateful if someone could explain how this application/investment will jump start the economy ( assuming a jump start is necessary) Will it create jobs? will it result in massively increased tax revenue? All answers gratefully received You may have noticed we have developed a public sector that has grown a great sense of entitlement. The economy on the island is unsustainable so any interventions from someone with a business acumen like Musk is to be welcomed. As to how great the benefit will be, well that depends how well we sell the island as a place to do business. Edited August 1, 2021 by AlanShimmin 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 1 minute ago, AlanShimmin said: You may have noticed we have developed a public sector that has grown a great sense of entitlement. The economy on the island is unsustainable so any interventions from someone with a business acumen ike Musk is to be welcomed. Thank you, but you haven’t answered my question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: I don’t know anything about this stuff so I’d be grateful if someone could explain how this application/investment will jump start the economy ( assuming a jump start is necessary) Will it create jobs? will it result in massively increased tax revenue? All answers gratefully received Possibly lots of photo opportunities for the usual suspects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overdose Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: I don’t know anything about this stuff so I’d be grateful if someone could explain how this application/investment will jump start the economy ( assuming a jump start is necessary) Will it create jobs? will it result in massively increased tax revenue? All answers gratefully received I don't think it will. Once the ground station goes online then a local telecoms company will look after the equipment via a maintenence contract. The only thing this will do is probably draw customers away from the likes of Sure and MT, especially if fibre is still some years away. Edited August 1, 2021 by Overdose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 9 hours ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: They'll have installed their own transmitters/receivers. You just need a spot with some fibre-optic cable, electricity and as broad a view of the sky as possible. There's a picture on MR comments that looks to be the antenna. They look to be the same setup as Starlink ground stations elsewhere. That's just the eggs. Wait until they hatch! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Musk ,Spacex and SES have been working together for some time and developed the re usable launch vehicle which has considerably reduced satellite and space station launch costs ,amongst other things , there is every reason to believe they will capitalise on the presence of SES and its Isle of Man company ,its just a couple of years ago Tesla wanted to provide course cars for the TT races , and Musk himself was due to visit the Island with a group of VIP's from SES , Musk also has a mutual friend living in Santon ,who has also been into space , so providing the usual lunatic fringe don"t make too many unwelcome waves , we could be seeing the birth of a new type of business for the Isle of Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted August 2, 2021 Author Share Posted August 2, 2021 4 hours ago, AlanShimmin said: Absolute bollocks. What do you want, communism?. We actively need some true industrialists to jump start the economy. If not then we're truly fucked. We don’t need people like Musk. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-03-13/when-elon-musk-tried-to-destroy-tesla-whistleblower-martin-tripp 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanShimmin Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 5 hours ago, Amadeus said: We don’t need people like Musk. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-03-13/when-elon-musk-tried-to-destroy-tesla-whistleblower-martin-tripp Sadly we do. How else are we going to keep funding your Council and it's grandiose plans? For the record Tripp was a dick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 10 hours ago, Omobono said: Musk ,Spacex and SES have been working together for some time and developed the re usable launch vehicle which has considerably reduced satellite and space station launch costs ,amongst other things , there is every reason to believe they will capitalise on the presence of SES and its Isle of Man company ,its just a couple of years ago Tesla wanted to provide course cars for the TT races , and Musk himself was due to visit the Island with a group of VIP's from SES , Musk also has a mutual friend living in Santon ,who has also been into space , so providing the usual lunatic fringe don"t make too many unwelcome waves , we could be seeing the birth of a new type of business for the Isle of Man And the tangible benefits for the Island will be what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: And the tangible benefits for the Island will be what? Unquantifiable and therefore intangible. Eddie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 2 hours ago, AlanShimmin said: Sadly we do. How else are we going to keep funding your Council and it's grandiose plans? For the record Tripp was a dick. It will line the pockets of a favoured few, very few. All this smoke blowing really is quite pathetic. Meanwhile, we have a crumbling infrastructure due to lack of maintenance, a health service that can't even run an emergency dental service, projects that are a million miles away from being completed on time and on budget etc etc etc. And, the money is not his. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah 01 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 13 hours ago, AlanShimmin said: how well we sell the island as a place to do business Set-time, thrice (weekdays )daily air service to London might be a start. At present the Rock is still pretty much in 'Alacatraz' mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah 01 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Andy Onchan said: And the tangible benefits for the Island will be what? Anything that contributes anything to the coffers has to be encouraged unless you want the Rock to rapidly transform itself into a peat-bog in the middle of the Irish Sea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 14 minutes ago, Utah 01 said: Anything that contributes anything to the coffers has to be encouraged unless you want the Rock to rapidly transform itself into a peat-bog in the middle of the Irish Sea. That's the issue though. Knowing our lot the GMTP will end up paying for it with more CS positions to "manage" the smoke blowing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: That's the issue though. Knowing our lot the GMTP will end up paying for it with more CS positions to "manage" the smoke blowing. We shouldn't need any more, theoretically - we should be able to use the ones currently allocated to managing the other ventures in the "space cluster". Like the one that's under tarpaulins in JCK's yard at Balthane... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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