Covid Deniers and Anti Vaxxers

[loaf]

1 hour ago, John Wright said:

Page 1. First post. Title might give you a clue?

It's fine - Just the fact that you operate a nutters enclosure is probably something I should be aware of now. I've been a casual member of the forum since 2004 and I didn't realise. 

But for what it's worth, invariably a lot of people just hit the most recent threads and read the last comments.

[quilp]

14 minutes ago, loaf said:

But for what it's worth, invariably a lot of people just hit the most recent threads and read the last comments.

And in their collective eagerness to react they end up missing salient opinion further back in the thread and run the risk of repeating something someone else has already posted. Happens all the time on here. It only takes a few minutes to pick up where you logged-out from for continuity's sake. I read every post (sad?), some posts are given more time and validity than others as the predictability of some posters is uninspiring, boring and repetitive.

Well said Loaf. 

Edited August 18, 2021 by quilp

[Gladys]

29 minutes ago, kevster said:

LINK

Prescribing unlicensed drugs to a breast cancer patient?  

Edited August 18, 2021 by Gladys

[Ann]

45 minutes ago, John Wright said:

Simple question, Ann. Well a few?

Are you a Holocaust denier?

Are you anti Semitic?  Racist? A white supremacist? A fascist?

if not, why do you associate with,  and give credence to, people who clearly are?

John your questions are understandable and I could offer potentially helpful information if you start a suitable thread in good faith.

In the meantime, I can point out that you might have revealed misconceptions, e.g. "racism" is a politically motivated word for "ethnocentrism," the term used by academics and which is very high among Jews and low among Europeans. The adaptive value of ethnocentrism is addressed in the academic literature, including that of Prof. MacDonald.

Also, you might want to look at the important differences between fascism and nationalism, including the German version that we know as National Socialism.  

John, as in my reply to Kevster, I am trying to answer your questions constructively -- not to try make you, Kevster or anyone else here look foolish.  As you might have noticed, I've been consistently polite toward other commenters, despite the crude attempts to discredit me, including ad hominem attack -- used by unsophisticated people when they lack a factual argument.

I'm here for altruistic reasons, not for ego, companionship or as a substitute for real life. If you were not sincere in your creation of this thread, and you do not actually want people to share relevant information, let us know and we can end the pretence.

If you see fit to continue this thread in a spirit of mutual respect for the benefit of all readers, I suggest that we stick to the thread topic and that you apply your moderating powers to those who are trying to sabotage the learning process.

[monasqueen]

56 minutes ago, Hugh G Rection said:

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WATCH THIS AND TELL ME THAT WE ARE REALLY BEING TOLD THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!

WE ARE NOT. 

Why all the shouting?

David Icke is a nutcase who probably headed a few too many balls while he was a footballer.

[Sheldon]

11 minutes ago, monasqueen said:

Why all the shouting?

David Icke is a nutcase who probably headed a few too many balls while he was a footballer.

He was a goalkeeper, so more of a "hands on" type. The head-the-ball stuff came later.

[John Wright]

10 minutes ago, Ann said:

John your questions are understandable and I could offer potentially helpful information if you start a suitable thread in good faith.

In the meantime, I can point out that you might have revealed misconceptions, e.g. "racism" is a politically motivated word for "ethnocentrism," the term used by academics and which is very high among Jews and low among Europeans. The adaptive value of ethnocentrism is addressed in the academic literature, including that of Prof. MacDonald.

Also, you might want to look at the important differences between fascism and nationalism, including the German version that we know as National Socialism.  

John, as in my reply to Kevster, I am trying to answer your questions constructively -- not to try make you, Kevster or anyone else here look foolish.  As you might have noticed, I've been consistently polite toward other commenters, despite the crude attempts to discredit me, including ad hominem attack -- used by unsophisticated people when they lack a factual argument.

I'm here for altruistic reasons, not for ego, companionship or as a substitute for real life. If you were not sincere in your creation of this thread, and you do not actually want people to share relevant information, let us know and we can end the pretence.

If you see fit to continue this thread in a spirit of mutual respect for the benefit of all readers, I suggest that we stick to the thread topic and that you apply your moderating powers to those who are trying to sabotage the learning process.

You haven’t answered any of the questions. You use sophistry. You discredit yourself. You aren’t, even if you believe differently, sharing relevant information. 

You’re posting discredited drivel, lies, misinformation. That’s why you’re corralled here. It’s to stop you sabotaging the forum.

By claiming that Europeans aren’t ethnocentric or racist, but Jews are, you reveal yourself. That’s pure racism and anti semitism.

You aren’t welcome. Please voluntarily stop posting.

[Andy Onchan]

33 minutes ago, Sheldon said:

He was a goalkeeper, so more of a "hands on" type. The head-the-ball stuff came later.

I'll tell you what he's not..... 

 

[Happier diner]

1 hour ago, Sheldon said:

He was a goalkeeper, so more of a "hands on" type. The head-the-ball stuff came later.

He must have been kicked in the head instead. 

[Mr Helmut Fromage]

1 hour ago, Ann said:

I'm here for altruistic reasons, not for ego, 

If the need unfortunately arose Due to COVID - by being altruistic would you be “Anti Ventilator” as enthusiastically as you are “Anti Vax” ?

[Phillip Dearden]

1 hour ago, Ann said:

John your questions are understandable and I could offer potentially helpful information if you start a suitable thread in good faith.

In the meantime, I can point out that you might have revealed misconceptions, e.g. "racism" is a politically motivated word for "ethnocentrism," the term used by academics and which is very high among Jews and low among Europeans. The adaptive value of ethnocentrism is addressed in the academic literature, including that of Prof. MacDonald.

Also, you might want to look at the important differences between fascism and nationalism, including the German version that we know as National Socialism.  

John, as in my reply to Kevster, I am trying to answer your questions constructively -- not to try make you, Kevster or anyone else here look foolish.  As you might have noticed, I've been consistently polite toward other commenters, despite the crude attempts to discredit me, including ad hominem attack -- used by unsophisticated people when they lack a factual argument.

I'm here for altruistic reasons, not for ego, companionship or as a substitute for real life. If you were not sincere in your creation of this thread, and you do not actually want people to share relevant information, let us know and we can end the pretence.

If you see fit to continue this thread in a spirit of mutual respect for the benefit of all readers, I suggest that we stick to the thread topic and that you apply your moderating powers to those who are trying to sabotage the learning process.

Ann

You throw out links and you make vague references but you consistently do not say what it is you believe or what you are trying to persuade us of. Until you actually make some kind of point no-one can either disagree or agree with you.

As yet, all you have done is link us to some non-mainstream commentators and all that tells us is that there are some non-standard thinkers posting stuff on the internet.

What is the point?

 

[Banker]

Bit of a backlash to the anti vax publication in Jersey 

https://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2021/08/18/delivery-of-the-rock-is-suspended/

[quilp]

Wrong thing to do, imo. 

[Scipio]

On 8/8/2021 at 6:49 PM, hampsterkahn said:

There are prominent anti vaxxers, who don’t just exercise  their choice and not have  a vaccination.

If you don’t want to have it -fine, don’t have it.

But they go  further to grand-stand, be aggressive and threatening and incite their followers.

Kate Shemirani  - shouted about Nuremburg trials and hanging of doctors and nurses, demanding that if doctors and nurses didn’t  “ Get off the bus “ she wanted her baying audience to “send me their their details”.This was incitement and  the theat was clear.

Piers Corbyn  and some of his followers  caused a clinic in Brighton to close for the day referring to vaccination  the staff there as   “scum”.

Others of their ilk have likened health care workers and NHS officials to  Dr Mengle. To anyone who is familiar with the  history of Josef Mengle , that’s pretty vile.

The aggressive ones I see all the time are those that have had 2 "vaccines" and thoroughly believe they have done the right thing and are aggressive towards those with an alternative position. You can't argue with a vaxxer who has been brainwashed by Government and the media. Time will tell who is correct

[quilp]

For most people there is no argument.