Jump to content

Brexit Penny Dropping?


ManxTaxPayer

Recommended Posts

5 minutes ago, manxman1980 said:

This seems to fit here;

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/20/uk-citizens-travelling-to-eu-next-summer-will-have-to-pay-7-visa-waiver-charge

May not be entirely Brexit related but it is yet another small inconvenience when travelling to the EU in future.

Does this mean illegal immigrants will have to get one of these to return to France? 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, manxman1980 said:

This seems to fit here;

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/20/uk-citizens-travelling-to-eu-next-summer-will-have-to-pay-7-visa-waiver-charge

May not be entirely Brexit related but it is yet another small inconvenience when travelling to the EU in future.

It says the scheme will mirror the  US ESTA. Well why not? That is a small inconvenience as well.

Obviously would rather not pay it but if you have to pay the ESTA fee to enter the US, you can’t really complain about having to pay a similar fee to enter the EU. Plus the few others in the Schengen area.

( Gentle reminder - the UK isn’t part of the EU anymore, it voted to leave)
 

 

Edited by The Voice of Reason
addition of last sentence penultimate paragraph
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, The Voice of Reason said:

It says the scheme will mirror the  US ESTA. Well why not? That is a small inconvenience as well.

Obviously would rather not pay it but if you have to pay the ESTA fee to enter the US, you can’t really complain about having to pay a similar fee to enter the EU. Plus the few others in the Schengen area.

( Gentle reminder - the UK isn’t part of the EU anymore, it voted to leave)

Yes you can because you didn't have to pay it pre-brexit ffs!

The bottom line will always be that to deliberately make it more complicated, more time-consuming and therefore more expensive to trade with our biggest trading partner that sits right on our doorstep can only be a really fucking stupid thing to do...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, P.K. said:

Yes you can because you didn't have to pay it pre-brexit ffs!

The bottom line will always be that to deliberately make it more complicated, more time-consuming and therefore more expensive to trade with our biggest trading partner that sits right on our doorstep can only be a really fucking stupid thing to do...

Small price to pay for self-determination. Not an issue.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

25 minutes ago, P.K. said:

Yes you can because you didn't have to pay it pre-brexit ffs!

Yes and there was a time when you didn’t have to pay an ESTA admin fee.

You really need to get out of this mindset. The UK populace spoke and the UK left the EU. Things will naturally change. Some things post Brexit will change from things pre Brexit.

It is a small price to pay to regain sovereignty ( €7 Euro for 3  years access to visit the EU ffs,)

I will happily pay it. Load of Remainer fuss over nothing.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, The Voice of Reason said:

( Gentle reminder - the UK isn’t part of the EU anymore, it voted to leave)

 

 

Really?   F@£king Hell when did that happen?

28 minutes ago, woolley said:

Small price to pay for self-determination. Not an issue.

It is not really anything to do with self determination real or imagined.  

It is, however, another small pain in the ass for travelling to a schengen country.  

It is on top off the additional mucking about at passport control and the restrictions on  how long we can spend in the EU.

I also believe, not verified it yet, that some EU countries will insist on you having two blank pages next to each other in your passport I  order to enter the country.  That's fine if you don't travel much but if you do those pages are going to get full quickly and mean spending more on new passports.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

@The Voice of Reason

You can't ignore the bigger issue.

The UK went from being a top player in the biggest and best trading bloc on the planet straight down to Third Country Trading Status. In other words from being a country who makes EU rules to a country who takes EU rules just as warned.

This minor issue starkly illustrates just how diminished the UK has become thanks to the totally stupid and completely unnecessary brexit that was driven mostly by an "immigration" agenda. Which will continue to be pushed by Reform UK because they recognised from the referendum what a vote winner it was. Needless to say your precious "sovrinty" came way down the list.

It's still the brexiteers "get out of jail free" card though as amply demonstrated on here...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, RecklessAbandon said:

So having to follow more rules from the EU than before is "self determination"?

Strange logic there.

The visa waiver charge is not a rule. It is a requirement.

The two are quite different.  
 

The same visa waiver charge applies to Americans, Australians, Mexicans, Serbians and a whole host of other non EU nationalities. 
 

Not sure what the problem is. I’m sure we’ll all get used to it after a while.

Edited by The Voice of Reason
Deleted short sentence
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...