ManxTaxPayer Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 34 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Talk of a middle question without a middle question being posed. The middle question is the question that is between the question on the left and the question on the right. It's obvious if you think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, ManxTaxPayer said: The middle question is the question that is between the question on the left and the question on the right. It's obvious if you think about it. Nope still can’t find it amongst the jumble of the twitter thread. Not obvious. Perhaps you could state it for me? Sorry to be obtuse if I am. Anyway the fact remains the vote was the vote. People were given a binary option and they made their choice clear. There was no obfuscating third choice. Lets just say there was a referendum on bringing back the death penalty. You can vote yes or no. Do you introduce “ middle” options like only if it’s done by hanging, or only if by electric chair or gas chamber etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTaxPayer Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: . Perhaps you could state it for me? I already did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTaxPayer Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 Anyway, irrespective of the attempt to spin it, it seems that 34% of those polled believe we were right to leave the EU, against 54% who believe we were wrong to leave the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 25 minutes ago, ManxTaxPayer said: Anyway, irrespective of the attempt to spin it, it seems that 34% of those polled believe we were right to leave the EU, against 54% who believe we were wrong to leave the EU. Believe what you want to believe. The majority voted to leave the EU at the time of the referendum. And that is when the vote mattered. Get over it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lost Login Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 12 hours ago, The Voice of Reason said: Believe what you want to believe. The majority voted to leave the EU at the time of the referendum. And that is when the vote mattered. Get over it But that was then and this is now and there is absolutely nothing is law which would prevent the UK holding another referendum, applying to re-join without a referendum or simply to align and sign up the UK to EU rules. The referendum was non binding and purely advisory. It could not be anything else at the time as nobody had a clear idea what Brexit actually looked like. Even now there is no final answer as the UK wants to renegotiate the NI protocol which is negotiated and signed up to a year ago. The double standards of some are really amazing in that the results of a non binding referendum which at the time nobody could actually set out what the terms of Brexit were is set in stone but a formally agreement that was negotiated and agreed should be terminated just after a year after it was signed up to on the basis that it was never expected that the EU would actually implement the terms in the agreement. I have always said the Brexit should run its course to try and lance the boil but the hypocrisy of some is truly stunning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 13 hours ago, ManxTaxPayer said: I think we’re all aware that you would rather Brexit hadn’t happened. But the UK has left the EU and no amount of posting silly headlines from second rate newspapers is going to change that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTaxPayer Posted January 4, 2022 Author Share Posted January 4, 2022 Here's an interesting Twitter thread on how the new systems are working out. Hopefully just teething problems, although they've had an awful long time to implement them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTaxPayer Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 I haven't read this story because it's the Telegraph paywall, however: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarley Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 4 hours ago, ManxTaxPayer said: I haven't read this story because it's the Telegraph paywall, however: Try this. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTaxPayer Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Zarley said: Try this. Nice one, thanks. That's an incredible read. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTaxPayer Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 On 1/1/2022 at 4:14 PM, ManxTaxPayer said: The Red Wall is going to love this! Never mind the Red Wall, here's a Red Face. This is like, classic. Big chuckles. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opusManx Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) . Edited January 13, 2022 by opusManx 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Manxie Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Brexit isn't really any of my business, I left the IOM in 1972 and then departed from the UK in 1975 and have lived in North America since. However, with family still "at home" I try to follow what is going on "back there" while at the same time trying to avoid the ridiculous stuff happening over here! Anyway, I found an interesting write up about the UK on The Atlantic website. By-the-way, it doesn't really blame Brexit for anything but presents the case that maybe it happened as a result of other conflicts within the state. It makes an interesting read. Here's the link: https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2022/01/will-britain-survive/621095/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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