Annoymouse Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 hour ago, emesde said: I came across e10 fuel about 4 years ago in a tiny filling station in N.Spain. Since then in all sorts of places around Europe. Are the garage petrol tanks really any different on IOM from everywhere else in Europe or is this just a myth to enable the government to be different and not stock this new grade of fuel. Surely if it is more eco friendly they should be supporting the change. Put simply if it was cost effective EVF and Manx Petroleum would already be doing it. I believe it’s the bulk storage that is the primary issue, but whilst the hardware on the surface is mostly new and shiny, the majority of these stations are still using their original storage tanks. Eco friendly wise the Government only gets involved if it somehow benefits, for example UK garages require specialist drainage installed to ensure any fuel spillages are contained, IOM just fire it down the same drain as rain water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: IOM just fire it down the same drain as rain water. Not so sure about that, I was involved in the industry 30 odd years ago and our sites had to have intercepter drains around the exits so any spillages were contained to the site. ETA but you're probably correct about some older locations. Edited September 5, 2021 by finlo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 minute ago, finlo said: Not so sure about that, I was involved in the industry 30 odd years ago and our sites had to have intercepter drains around the exits so any spillages were contained to the site. Locally? Because I’ve got it on good authority that there is at least two sites that don’t have any additional drainage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: Locally? Because I’ve got it on good authority that there is at least two sites that don’t have any additional drainage. Yep re read my edited previous post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 It’s an absolute indictment that the Isle of Man Government yet again say one thing and do another. There’s either a climate emergency or there isn’t. That is either important or it’s not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Derek Flint said: It’s an absolute indictment that the Isle of Man Government yet again say one thing and do another. There’s either a climate emergency or there isn’t. That is either important or it’s not. Well they stopped monitoring pollution/air quality for a reason, they were a million miles away from their targets, you’d think with the introduction of electric/hybrid vehicles this is something they’d revisit. There is a good chance levels have dropped since the last testing in 08/09, but they still won’t be within the desired range, particularly at peak times. The Governments climate strategy is dependant on the public to be responsible, they have no interest in actually enforcing anything, it’s only if someone starts up a petition and makes a lot of noise that anything seems to be done, they will never lead the way with change. When was the last time for example you saw a big fine or prohibition notice for companies burning plastics (or even tyres!) on a bonfire? I know of several companies who used to dispose of their waste this way regularly, one was in a prominent position close to the NSC track, nothing was ever done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 It’s the same as the crap infrastructure for electric vehicles, very limited charging points . The costs of buying an EV are prohibitive & then you’ve got to pay c£1k for the charging point if you’ve got a suitable property 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 UK residents encouraged to move to the "cleaner" E10 fuel; but how odd, it's use won't affect charging (read "revenue") levels in low emission zones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Banker said: It’s the same as the crap infrastructure for electric vehicles, very limited charging points . The costs of buying an EV are prohibitive & then you’ve got to pay c£1k for the charging point if you’ve got a suitable property As petrol and diesel cars are gradually phased out over the next couple of decades, much better public transport will be the best solution for people who do not have off street parking (either a driveway or a paid space). Edited September 6, 2021 by pongo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 They have just fired up an old coal power station in the uk to provide electricity for the grid, which will be helping to recharge electric car battery's !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 On 9/6/2021 at 9:57 AM, Banker said: It’s the same as the crap infrastructure for electric vehicles, very limited charging points . The costs of buying an EV are prohibitive & then you’ve got to pay c£1k for the charging point if you’ve got a suitable property I hope government stops putting in free charge points. Why should we pay for rich people to top up their cars? Only rich people can afford EVs. They can also afford to pay to top them up! Besides, it is not the future. Hydrogen fuel cells probably is. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevster Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Cambon said: I hope government stops putting in free charge points. Why should we pay for rich people to top up their cars? Only rich people can afford EVs. They can also afford to pay to top them up! Besides, it is not the future. Hydrogen fuel cells probably is. I thought they were charging for charging now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 13 hours ago, kevster said: I thought they were charging for charging now They are. @cambon is behind the time. No free charging anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
display name Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Should the person in charge of charging for charging be charged for charging for charging and will it be a positive or negative outcome? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 15 hours ago, display name said: Should the person in charge of charging for charging be charged for charging for charging and will it be a positive or negative outcome? A highly charged debate indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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