Banker Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Good summary from Gef from those who don’t want to read the full version. The increasing salaries & the numbers earning over £50k in government are eye watering & not sustainable without tax rises. https://gef.im/2021/09/02/deep-blue-book-back-in-the-black/?fbclid=IwAR1tVlCa9DtbSIvpj_7xk4dtuh2IsjvTA8pt-578xuV6lfD937BF-SF6xqU 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Facebook telling you what to read again Banker. A slave to the algorithm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 2, 2021 Author Share Posted September 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Facebook telling you what to read again Banker. A slave to the algorithm FFS if you don’t want to read don’t bother, coming from the king of google the comments from you are a bit rich!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, Banker said: Good summary from Gef from those who don’t want to read the full version. The increasing salaries & the numbers earning over £50k in government are eye watering & not sustainable without tax rises. https://gef.im/2021/09/02/deep-blue-book-back-in-the-black/?fbclid=IwAR1tVlCa9DtbSIvpj_7xk4dtuh2IsjvTA8pt-578xuV6lfD937BF-SF6xqU If you think the numbers in Government earning over £50 K ( which are transparent) are eye watering, then you need to look at the private sector which £50 k is not an uncommon salary. If it needs tax rises for the public sector to compete for quality staff with the private sector so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 minute ago, The Voice of Reason said: If you think the numbers in Government earning over £50 K ( which are transparent) are eye watering, then you need to look at the private sector which £50 k is not an uncommon salary. If it needs tax rises for the public sector to compete for quality staff with the private sector so be it. At least the private sector actually does something and self generates the money! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Does Govt get the "quality" staff? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 2, 2021 Author Share Posted September 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Does Govt get the "quality" staff? Some but the main problem is that there’s too many mediocre staff earning big salaries & blocking the younger ones with real ability who leave to private sector. The lack of accountability, proper assessments are performance related pay is a major issue as no real incentive to perform at higher levels 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 20 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: If you think the numbers in Government earning over £50 K ( which are transparent) are eye watering, then you need to look at the private sector which £50 k is not an uncommon salary. If it needs tax rises for the public sector to compete for quality staff with the private sector so be it. Why should I have to be penalised to pay for the public sector and civil service? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Does Govt get the "quality" staff? Totally useless, inept, thick as mince and self entitled - the Government owes them a living, and that’s the MHKs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 25 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: If you think the numbers in Government earning over £50 K ( which are transparent) are eye watering, then you need to look at the private sector which £50 k is not an uncommon salary. If it needs tax rises for the public sector to compete for quality staff with the private sector so be it. lol. Good one. In the private sector people are paid what they are worth and usually in relation to how much they generate for the business, pay is performance related and promotions and pay rises are performance related. In the private sector if you screw something up you lose your job. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 22 minutes ago, finlo said: At least the private sector actually does something and self generates the money! They also take the risks. The public sector and civil servants take risks with the knowledge that it’s not their money - it’s taxpayers. In the private sector you are appraised, if your performance is poor then your position may be affected. In the IOMG poor performances are encouraged and rewarded. After all, it’s very hard to be sacked, especially if your the CEO of a large department. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 33 minutes ago, finlo said: At least the private sector actually does something and self generates the money! And the public sector does nothing? Its not about generating the money.It’s about serving the public (Public servants- get it?) Try living without them. Who would collect your taxes and oversee the spending thereof? Who would police your streets? Who would put your fires out? Who might operate on you to save your life? Who would collect the millions of pounds in VAT? Who would administer the payment of your benefits? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: lol. Good one. In the private sector people are paid what they are worth and usually in relation to how much they generate for the business, pay is performance related and promotions and pay rises are performance related. In the private sector if you screw something up you lose your job. I’m sorry but that is bollocks, I’ve known plenty in the private sector who have screwed stuff up and kept their job. It’s a damn sight more “clubby” than the public sector “ In the private sector people are paid what they are worth” Yes like those on minimum wage in the gig economy What sort of world are you living in? Edited September 2, 2021 by The Voice of Reason 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: I’m sorry but that is bollocks, I’ve known plenty in the private sector who have screwed stuff up and kept their job. It’s a damn sight more “clubby” than the public sector Have you ever worked in the private sector? Which industry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: Have you ever worked in the private sector? Which industry? Yes Finance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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