IOM DHSC & MANX CARE

[Mysteron]

11 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

Not just that.  The Executive Director of Human Resources is Clair Conie.  She was a witness to the tribunal and she appears quite a lot in the Decision.  Not usually in a good light.  She conspired with Magson to sideline Ranson and undermine her and like so many others had lots of convenient memory lapses about the process - usually undermined by documentation.

Clare Conie (then Porter) was HR for the police some years ago, according to a friend who worked there at the same time as her.  Seemingly her memory lapses have not improved over the intervening years.  Nor her capabilities.  

[buncha wankas]

3 hours ago, Non-Believer said:

Cannan's got a difficult call. The potential damage done to the Island's reputation by the visible sacking of the man who's now Treasury Minister vs. the potential damage done to the Island's reputation by not sacking the man at the helm of what has gone on in the Health Dept which is now increasingly public to include UK.

Hooper is just as bad, sat in his Ministerial post knowing what he heard from Ranson and Glover in PAC but continued letting it go on for months.  His CEO and Deputy CEO defending the indefensible with tax payers money and he supported them. 

Hooper then rewarded the Deputy CEO for facilitating it all. 

Just shows he follows the “pay cheque’ line. 

 

[buncha wankas]

36 minutes ago, Mysteron said:

Clare Conie (then Porter) was HR for the police some years ago, according to a friend who worked there at the same time as her.  Seemingly her memory lapses have not improved over the intervening years.  Nor her capabilities.  

Pretty clear anyone with capabilities would not survive in civil service.   I hear if you have a friend on the ‘inside’ you can get a job whether you can do the job or not.  It’s all about who you know not what you know. 

[GD4ELI]

12 minutes ago, buncha wankas said:

Pretty clear anyone with capabilities would not survive in civil service.   I hear if you have a friend on the ‘inside’ you can get a job whether you can do the job or not.  It’s all about who you know not what you know. 

Hardly a secret.

[Andy Onchan]

1 hour ago, buncha wankas said:

Pretty clear anyone with capabilities would not survive in civil service.   I hear if you have a friend on the ‘inside’ you can get a job whether you can do the job or not.  It’s all about who you know not what you know. 

This. The organisation is institutionally corrupt.

[buncha wankas]

10 hours ago, Bandits said:

I’d still be putting money in a u-turn by Alf over Ashford at some stage soon. Right across social media people just don’t get why Ashford wasn’t booted. Cannan is never going to put a clear line under this whole thing until Ashford goes. The whole argument is about a change of culture being needed. 

Ashford should stay, he won’t be so trusting next time, the gang of directors and CEOs should be demoted or fired accordingly, if fired their pension should be penalised. They get paid to advise and do their job, Ashford gets paid to represent them in Tynwald and represent department.    
The word is most Directors etc have jumped in last year taking early retirement AKA we are paying them for next 30yrs for their incompetence.  Even the Chief Secretary was allowed to retire early instead of disciplined

it is beyond disgusting.  This is why there is a mob bullying corporate culture in IOM,  because civil servant know the public will blame politicians and they keep their jobs and get to carry on. 
 

CEOs get paid more than politicians 

https://www.jobtrain.co.uk/iomgovjobs/displayjob.aspx?jobid=13852

Edited May 18, 2022 by buncha wankas

[TheTeapot]

18 minutes ago, buncha wankas said:

Ashford should stay

There's no way he should stay, or be allowed to. Think about those words from the tribunal, his evidence was "practised and diplomatic seemingly guided by the principle of deniability of anything potentially inconvenient unless/until objective evidence was available to the contrary."

QC's and that use carefully considered and polite language, but what that is really saying is that Ashford lies, has lied, and will continue to lie about anything as long as thinks he can get away with it.

He cannot be trusted to tell the truth. 

[Kopek]

You cannot fire the underlings and leave the ego driven top dog in place!

That would be dishonourable.

[Bandits]

30 minutes ago, buncha wankas said:

it is beyond disgusting.  This is why there is a mob bullying corporate culture in IOM,  because civil servant know the public will blame politicians and they keep their jobs and get to carry on. 
 

CEOs get paid more than politicians 

https://www.jobtrain.co.uk/iomgovjobs/displayjob.aspx?jobid=13852

I get that. He still should offer his resignation though and go. 

[Bandits]

17 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

There's no way he should stay, or be allowed to. Think about those words from the tribunal, his evidence was "practised and diplomatic seemingly guided by the principle of deniability of anything potentially inconvenient unless/until objective evidence was available to the contrary."

I agree with you. If Ashford is being held up as some sort of terminal sad case who has been bullied by all these civil servants and then copped for it then it’s a sad state of affairs. Yes we all know how bad the culture and how devious most of them are but any half astute MHK is just going to say no and not play ball with being played. Ashford took the MBE off the back of other peoples efforts so I’m sorry he can’t now claim to be the victim. 

[Steady Eddie]

On 5/18/2022 at 6:42 PM, buncha wankas said:

it is beyond disgusting.  This is why there is a mob bullying corporate culture in IOM,  because civil servant know the public will blame politicians and they keep their jobs and get to carry on. 

The whole of the political system needs to grow some balls. But Ashie is no hero who needs saving.

Edited May 31, 2022 by Steady Eddie

[Newsdesk]

1 hour ago, Steady Eddie said:

Added to that anyone wants Longworth gone I’d do it for free. 

You’d have to fight me for it. 

[Anyone]

The thing with medics is they will stick together even when they are wrong , which is often. My mother was a theatre nurse in the 50’s and had little good to say about what she called ‘tin gods’. ie Doctors . Said she saw many die due to those tin gods ignoring theatre nurses with decades of hands on experience because they knew best one month out of med school.

[Dr. Grumpy]

6 hours ago, Anyone said:

The thing with medics is they will stick together even when they are wrong

You simply could not be more wrong! Doctors are more divided as a profession than any other

[quilp]

Seems like the cat isn't quite out of the bag just yet.

Further questions to be asked. Definitely worth a read.

https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/ranson-case-will-get-second-hearing-547607