buncha wankas Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 27 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: Not just that. The Executive Director of Human Resources is Clair Conie. She was a witness to the tribunal and she appears quite a lot in the Decision. Not usually in a good light. She conspired with Magson to sideline Ranson and undermine her and like so many others had lots of convenient memory lapses about the process - usually undermined by documentation. A employers culture usually stems from HR, what’s the bet Clair Conie has been promoted for facilitating this culture. fire the lot of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 At least it hasn't made national headlines...https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/may/17/isle-of-man-medical-director-dr-rosalind-ranson-faced-disgraceful-bullying-tribunal-finds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 12 hours ago, Albert Tatlock said: Such a review this term was already rejected by Alf Cannan 2 months ago. Correct Albert. I had certainly forgotten about that, as did others on here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 11 hours ago, hampsterkahn said: It is interesting how the problem has been seen in Tynwald by CM in general terms perhaps as a “dilutional approach ’ rather than specific to the the case in question. Choosing to see it as a general attitude/ cultural problem “in Govt” that can be addressed by general changes in attitude, culture by training etc, The problem in fact could not have been more specific -a named individual, Dr Ransom, brought a case of unfair dismissal against the government and Gov. lost -and how. Further, in the course of that tribunal specific individuals working for government (not a whole Department) , were very clearly identified as being the sole cause of that unfair treatment and considerable evidence was forthcoming of their totally unacceptable behaviour as individuals towards her. There is no evidence (from this tribunal) that this behaviour was in some way a cultural norm for that or any other Department. On the basis of the tribunals findings, any general “improvements” should begin with action against these perpetrators. I may have missed hearing it,but recognising that the tribunal was about an individual being proven to have been treated badly, an apology to Dr Ranson would have been appropriate. I think the Ranson affair was the straw that broke the camel's back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) We have a bunch of self serving hypocrites running the island, who sadly are either too thick or too unconcerned at the damage, both reputational and financial, their inactions and decisions are causing the island. If the amount of money paid out in damages to people who have been subject to medical malpractice and to employment compensations was to be invested in the service the populace would benefit ! It says much, when you read a post on here a short while ago (true or not), that amongst the many reasons for leaving the island, their fear of not receiving medical care for their needs was the main driver ! Alf Cannan is as bad as the rest, a self serving windbag of little use ! Edited May 18, 2022 by asitis 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Someone in the media really needs to get hold of Ashford and ask him about the 'politely deny everything until shown otherwise' line. He'd probably deny it. Politely. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Tim & Chris still want resignations & a lot of public do as well! https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/call-for-multiple-resignations-off-back-of-ranson-report/ 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, Banker said: Tim & Chris still want resignations & a lot of public do as well! https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/call-for-multiple-resignations-off-back-of-ranson-report/ I’d still be putting money in a u-turn by Alf over Ashford at some stage soon. Right across social media people just don’t get why Ashford wasn’t booted. Cannan is never going to put a clear line under this whole thing until Ashford goes. The whole argument is about a change of culture being needed. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 20 minutes ago, Bandits said: I’d still be putting money in a u-turn by Alf over Ashford at some stage soon. Right across social media people just don’t get why Ashford wasn’t booted. Cannan is never going to put a clear line under this whole thing until Ashford goes. The whole argument is about a change of culture being needed. Dr Glovers PAC hearing seems to have fell off the radar, his behaviour towards her was abhorrent and mirrors what Dr Ranson experienced to a degree. We have more to come yet with the covid inquiry. His lack of action to tackle the cost of living crisis will also be a nail in his coffin 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 minute ago, cissolt said: His lack of action to tackle the cost of living crisis will also be a nail in his coffin Yes I agree he will do absolutely nothing about the cost of living crisis. Just like he’s done absolutely nothing about the health crisis. He hasn’t got any credibility on the cost of living aspect anyway. This is someone paid £70K who has allowed staff to be bullied and abused. How can he relate in anyway to people working hard to keep a roof over their heads who are probably prepared to put up with any work conditions just to put food on the table. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Cannan's got a difficult call. The potential damage done to the Island's reputation by the visible sacking of the man who's now Treasury Minister vs. the potential damage done to the Island's reputation by not sacking the man at the helm of what has gone on in the Health Dept which is now increasingly public to include UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Non-Believer said: Cannan's got a difficult call. The potential damage done to the Island's reputation by the visible sacking of the man who's now Treasury Minister vs. the potential damage done to the Island's reputation by not sacking the man at the helm of what has gone on in the Health Dept which is now increasingly public to include UK. The longer he carries on the worse the fallout will be. At least Manx radio seem to have woken up to the issue 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Cannan's got a difficult call. The potential damage done to the Island's reputation by the visible sacking of the man who's now Treasury Minister vs. the potential damage done to the Island's reputation by not sacking the man at the helm of what has gone on in the Health Dept which is now increasingly public to include UK. He needs to gauge public opinion. Then it becomes easy. Edited May 18, 2022 by Bandits 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 It's not surprising to see that Walter still has considerable support. Sad but true. Public opinion is very much divided, right now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
747-400 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 2 hours ago, cissolt said: The longer he carries on the worse the fallout will be. At least Manx radio seem to have woken up to the issue Exactly this. If he wielded the axe at the weekend, it would no longer be today’s headlines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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