quilp Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 36 minutes ago, 2112 said: I wonder what Hooperman is feeling? Probably his arse and his elbow, desperately trying to work out which is which. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 IOMNP Facebook page is in overdrive along with the NPM Facebook and Gef Facebook pages with posters calling for Hooperman to resign. He will tough it out probably, he is too unintelligent too understand the public mood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Ah, this is glorious. Next week's proceedings just got twice as interesting. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 36 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: it's worth saying that no judge could have allowed such a weak case and retained any credibility. And Deemsters don't like being pissed about and the way this last minute attempt to stop things was done, fits that description perfectly. Clearly, it wasn't Deemster Corlett's turn in the wheelbarrow... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 https://gef.im/2022/08/26/dhsc-appeal-thrown-out/ This doesn't look very good for Mr Hooper. Let's hope Ashford has his MBE close to hand as he might have to return it after next week. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, cissolt said: https://gef.im/2022/08/26/dhsc-appeal-thrown-out/ This doesn't look very good for Mr Hooper. Let's hope Ashford has his MBE close to hand as he might have to return it after next week. Didn't Pete Russell also win in Abbotswood vs DHSC? Bridson Halsall raking it in! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Toys out of pram 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 46 minutes ago, 2112 said: IOMNP Facebook page is in overdrive along with the NPM Facebook and Gef Facebook pages with posters calling for Hooperman to resign. Not Manx Radio it seems: Every other post is open, oddly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 I ran out of brain cells trying to follow the dialogue, but my conclusion is that the Tribunal cannot conduct any investigation. It only considers documents presented. The Hearing starting on Tuesday will consider the effects on the compensation paid to Ranson resulting from the non-disclosure of documents. But there was no discussion of who would investigate the allegation made by Ranson's lawyer that, amongst other things, a document was concocted - which is presumably a criminal offence. [footnote] When commenting on the various conflicting dates in the document in question, the gov.'s advocate said it might have been when the database was transferred from the DHSS to Manx Care. Which is probably just a throwaway statement but implies that Chief Information Officer Richard Wild does not know how to copy over a database without screwing up the dates in the documents. [another footnote] During one of the many long discussion of why the gov. did not respond sooner after the publication of the Tribunal's report, the Deemster said "So the Attorney General's chambers got it completely wrong?". I smiled - as quietly as I could. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 53 minutes ago, 2112 said: I don’t honestly think in this case it was, it was clearly a stalling tactic from the off, desperate and clutching at straws. He obviously is not prepared to put his reputation on the line. I doubt he thought about his reputation, rather that the rule and process of a legal system independent of any influence is sacrosanct as it should be and decided on those terms, the law and the facts before him alone. You may think I have rose tainted (intentional) glasses, but the criticism of the judiciary here is often based on not having the desired or popular outcome, not whether it was right in law and on the facts and, TBH, that is all the judiciary have to worry about. When it becomes a process that decides based on popular approval, that really is the time to worry. As it happens, this is a decision that has popular approval. Bear that in mind when other decisions are made without that popular approval but have nevertheless been made based on much more evidence and knowledge than is available to the ordinary man in the street. That is not to say the judiciary are infallible, but that is why there is an appeals and review process. Sorry to sound so sanctimonious, but I hope this has restored some faith in the process and that everyone is not in some other pocket of the establishment. 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 16 minutes ago, NoTailT said: Toys out of pram As Rachel Glover pointed out in the replies, there's nothing to prevent him discussing whatever was said in Court today, it's protected unless the Deemster specifically ruled otherwise. So if he or the Department is unhappy about media coverage there's nothing to prevent them telling us on twitter or in a press release or wherever. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxfisherman Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 He's trying to be mysterious, making you wonder, what can he mean?, what have we missed?, setting doubts. Don't fall for it, he's full of shit. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 More chaff... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Sorry Lawrie, you nailed your colours to the mast which has proved to be the wrong one. You backed an overt attempt to block due legal process in the name of protecting previous corrupt actions. A truly appalling stance for a Minister to have taken. Write out your resignation and hand it in please. 9 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Quote I’m looking forward to the media reporting the whole story about today’s High Court case, although I get the feeling I might be waiting a while… This is an insulting statement, in which he says that the press is biased against the gov. I'd like to go on Facebook and give him a piece of my mind. Unfortunately, as previously revealed here, I am banned from Facebook. So anyway, If Mr Hooper just happens to be reading this, who is going to investigate the allegations that a document was concocted? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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