Gladys Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 48 minutes ago, NoTailT said: He hasn't been formally appointed yet, has he? He has been appointed, its an appointment by the Queen, but not yet sworn in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, Gladys said: He has been appointed, its an appointment by the Queen, but not yet sworn in. Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, wrighty said: Who? Walter Wannenburgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Dirty Buggane said: Yes but seeing as all this crap went down under the old AG can he not be still held accountable. Even if he just happen's to chose to retire at an opportune moment. 5 hours ago, offshoremanxman said: He’s dead! Typical, any bloody excuse eh! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, Gladys said: He has been appointed, its an appointment by the Queen, but not yet sworn in. Sorry that's what I meant. So he isn't *officially* in post, but carrying out the duties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, wrighty said: Who? C'mon Ian, keep up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, wrighty said: According to the government website the post is still vacant. https://www.gov.im/about-the-government/offices/attorney-generals-chambers/ But according to a press release issued on 25 August: Her Majesty The Queen has approved the appointment of Mr Walter Wannenburgh as the Attorney General in the Isle of Man. [...]The Attorney General will be required to act as the legal adviser to the Lieutenant Governor, Council of Ministers, Government Departments and Statutory Boards. Her Majesty’s Attorney General is required to offer guidance on matters of law and issues relating to the Isle of Man's domestic and external interests and attends sittings of Tynwald and the Legislative Council. As Her Majesty’s Solicitor General Mr Wannenburgh worked closely with Her Majesty’s Attorney General, Mr John Quinn QC. Following the death of the Mr Quinn earlier this year, Mr Wannenburgh was required to fulfil the role of Her Majesty’s Acting Attorney General while a robust recruitment and vetting process was undertaken. Mr Wannenburgh will be officially sworn in to the role later this year by His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor, on behalf of Her Majesty The Queen, at a ceremony to be held at Government House. The Tynwald website has been updated as well. I don't think the swearing-in makes much difference (especially as he's already in the department, so will have sworn in in his previous post). The appointment is what matters. Presumably no one has got round to updating the AGC website. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
code99 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 To summarise: The main purpose of this current Tribunal is to determine the damages that Dr Ranson is entitled to, and also legal costs she can be reimbursed for (based on how gravely she was treated). The ‘assessment’ process is being constantly frustrated through the lack of cooperation by key witnesses, all of who either were or still are associated with the government. Sadly, it appears that Magson is ‘untouchable’ owing to her non-IOM residency status and Malone is ‘off the Island’ on holiday. The Chairman of the Tribunal has also specifically highlighted a senior employee of the AGC as being less than helpful. Nevertheless, the Tribunal is persevering and has scheduled a further three days of hearings in November. By then, hopefully, the evidence compiled by Expol about ‘concocted’ documents will also be available. Personally, I am dismayed by the arrogant attitude displayed in the course of the Tribunal by both the erstwhile and the current Health Ministers, as well as by certain senior (present and former) government employees. I am not convinced that this lack of cooperation is mere aberration, which is peculiar to this one case. I suspect this case is similar to others, but this time the so called ‘respondents’ are up against someone who is able to financially match them, but on many previous occasions the ‘respondents’ have gotten away with their misdeeds, by simply toughing the legal process out beyond what ordinary people could tolerate. 1 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: Presumably no one has got round to updating the AGC website. Clearly struggling for numbers to do it.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
code99 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 On 9/2/2022 at 11:12 AM, Apple said: Two high profile cases argued over by expensive lawyers. Sounds about right. What about others ? It seems to me that the IOMG’s decisions are likely dominated by motivation to protect themselves from all opposition, and that they are not massively interested working for the ‘overall good of people’. Are we living in a democratic society with checks and balances (to prevent the misuse of power, and the expectation that our elected representatives will act responsibly), or have we unknowingly/ unwillingly been whizzed off to some tinpot venal dictatorship where 'might is always right'? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
code99 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 17 hours ago, Gladys said: Thank you. This is just so sad for the island. Perhaps a wake up call for the electorate? This really does need a public and fulsome review with resulting action. That judgement is full of carefully crafted words that hint at the underlying disquiet whilst not obviously stating the bleeding obvious. They really are taking the GMP for fools - “Repeat a lie often enough and people will eventually come to believe it”. This begs another question – why would anybody want to come to this place to live and work (barring foreign kleptocrats and HNWIs who are frequently the same person), if ‘doing the right thing’ on the Island can lead to one’s mental and financial ruin? 4 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyond Belief Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 We are not alone "Gibraltar government braces for public inquiry to hear corruption allegations" On the IoM we have the opportunity to come clean, sort the out the mess, prosecute those that committed criminal acts, restore public confidence, remove those from office that do not have the skill set to carry out their roles, demonstrate to the international arena that we have an open and transparent government and by do so encourage individual's, their families to locate to the Isle of Man and grow our economy. Until such time we will continue to fail. We either heal as a community or we will die. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Some very concerning statements from Chris Robertshaw: Did the Grantham minutes really get shredded? Was Ashford present? Why are more mhks not asking questions about this? Is our health service being run by unaccountable UK business directors!? Are we looking at privatisation via back door channels? It sounds like, once again, legislation has been agreed without the implications being understood. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 33 minutes ago, cissolt said: Some very concerning statements from Chris Robertshaw: Did the Grantham minutes really get shredded? Was Ashford present? Why are more mhks not asking questions about this? Is our health service being run by unaccountable UK business directors!? Are we looking at privatisation via back door channels? It sounds like, once again, legislation has been agreed without the implications being understood. Interesting. Worth watching all the way through for Robertshaws suggestion that Magson was the filter used to remove incriminating documents now being uncovered and who is now completely outside the jurisdiction of the Tribunal as she’s UK resident. So you can do anything you like and stay in the UK and you’re never going to be accountable for anything. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestboy Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 I do wish Moulton would cease interrupting so much and pontificating whilst waving his hands about 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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