Moghrey Mie Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 3 hours ago, 2112 said: Yes, but I don’t think it’s entirely just down to sickness. How many staff are genuinely fed up, overwhelmed and demoralised? One way to find out. https://www.davidsonmorris.com/return-to-work-interview/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 It is all very well saying NI should be increased but what about the Employers who will have to pay more and perhaps are struggling after the past couple of years. This is no time to increase any charge on the working person it is a time for to be prudent and stop splashing the cash. I do think though nurses and junior doctors should be encouraged to join our health service by giving them decent salaries and help with accommodation, we are nothing without our health it is the most important thing that affects everyone. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Banker said: Assume you do listen to national news where they have declared critical incidents in many Uk healthcare trusts due to staff shortages/illness etc? How is it a low to ask for qualified nurses to help when there’s high levels of sickness? It's how we got to this state on the island that is important and how can we deal with the changes that now have to happen. We will not get back to levels of nurse staffing we have had in the past. There has to be change now of so many factors and issues I doubt whether the island will be able to reconcile them all in time to prevent this recurring. BTW all staff who go off sick should have a return to work interview but that has probably been quietly put to one side. Pay and pay conditions, hospital and community practices, staffing, accommodation, rotas, continuity of care, recruitments, retention schemes and much more needs to be reviewed and altered to accommodate the type, style and numbers of nursing staff we want /need. The big thing missing at the moment though is Political Support. Not one politician has ( dared to) speak out in support of the nursing situation even on this forum where we certainly have had some MHKs in the past voicing their opinions about matters that concern them. It's like the staffing crisis at Nobles is passing them all by. Arms Length seems to mean Hands Off. Edited January 2, 2023 by Apple 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Apple said: It's like the staffing crisis at Nobles is passing them all by. Arms Length seems to mean Hands Off. This. No wonder they all voted for the political/operational split - now they’re not responsible for any of it. Unless, of course, they actively choose to get involved - but that would need a demonstration of some firmly-held political convictions, some commitment to the island health service and some commitment to the idea that their constituent’s health might matter more than political expediency. Oh, well - back to reality… 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jarndyce said: This. No wonder they all voted for the political/operational split - now they’re not responsible for any of it. Unless, of course, they actively choose to get involved - but that would need a demonstration of some firmly-held political convictions, some commitment to the island health service and some commitment to the idea that their constituent’s health might matter more than political expediency. Oh, well - back to reality… How true becoming "involved" and stepping away from the party line could be a disastrous move for their finances ! Electorates needs PAH !! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Grumpy Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 4 hours ago, Banker said: As I’ve said before our Ni needs to increase to at least Uk rates to fund better healthcare services No need. Never been in this situation pre Manx Care (even at the height of the first wave of the Pandemic). Plenty of money floating around. Just needs to be redirected to be spent on frontline staff. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Grumpy Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 26 minutes ago, Apple said: It's how we got to this state on the island that is important and how can we deal with the changes that now have to happen. We will not get back to levels of nurse staffing we have had in the past. There has to be change now of so many factors and issues I doubt whether the island will be able to reconcile them all in time to prevent this recurring. BTW all staff who go off sick should have a return to work interview but that has probably been quietly put to one side. Pay and pay conditions, hospital and community practices, staffing, accommodation, rotas, continuity of care, recruitments, retention schemes and much more needs to be reviewed and altered to accommodate the type, style and numbers of nursing staff we want /need. The big thing missing at the moment though is Political Support. Not one politician has ( dared to) speak out in support of the nursing situation even on this forum where we certainly have had some MHKs in the past voicing their opinions about matters that concern them. It's like the staffing crisis at Nobles is passing them all by. Arms Length seems to mean Hands Off. We all know what happened to the one politician who dared question and tried to hold to account the sacred cow of Manx Care (Mr Callister of course). Is there any wonder no other politician will step forward? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Grumpy Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Apparent MC Staffing strategy: 1.Treat them poorly 2. Wrangle endlessly over pay with local staff whilst paying a fortune to agency, locum and synatptik staff doing the same work 3. Drive out those that don't toe the line 4. Enforce excessive overtime and bank work on remaining staff 5. Fail to provide adequate rest and recovery opportunities and facilities 6. Fail to provide proper PPE (Airborne protection against airborne viruses for example) Should we be surprised at the results? Really? 6 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Dr. Grumpy said: We all know what happened to the one politician who dared question and tried to hold to account the sacred cow of Manx Care (Mr Callister of course). Is there any wonder no other politician will step forward? Your right, the silence from comin and the back bench's is deafening. Civil service heavies must of been doing a bit of enforcing, to disagree with Mr Cannan and therfore the CS would seriously harm your political dreams and chance of any of your pet policies coming to fruition. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Gay'n Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Dr. Grumpy said: Apparent MC Staffing strategy: 1.Treat them poorly 2. Wrangle endlessly over pay with local staff whilst paying a fortune to agency, locum and synatptik staff doing the same work 3. Drive out those that don't toe the line 4. Enforce excessive overtime and bank work on remaining staff 5. Fail to provide adequate rest and recovery opportunities and facilities 6. Fail to provide proper PPE (Airborne protection against airborne viruses for example) Should we be surprised at the results? Really? ...and all underpinned by the snake oil sold to us by Sir Jonathan Michael, the recipe for which was thoroughly discredited ten-year old Tory legislation (Lansley 'reforms' of 2012)... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 5 hours ago, Apple said: The big thing missing at the moment though is Political Support. Not one politician has ( dared to) speak out in support of the nursing situation even on this forum where we certainly have had some MHKs in the past voicing their opinions about matters that concern them. It's like the staffing crisis at Nobles is passing them all by. Arms Length seems to mean Hands Off. try and get involved though and alf sacks you cos you upset useless people whose boat is getting rocked, ask rob all about it. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Apple said: oops Edited January 2, 2023 by WTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Apple said: oops again. Edited January 2, 2023 by WTF 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Another no shit Sherlock news piece this morning on the NPM, with Manx Care daily whinging and handwringing, about chronic staff shortages. I agree there are not enough frontline staff, those who actually do the administering of care. There is no shortage of management bigwigs, and with great salaries, working conditions and generous terms, not forgetting the all important civil service pension, there probably is no shortage of penpushers and management bods. If there is such a health issue affecting staffing at Nobles, then perhaps the island needs to go back to social distancing, hospital restrictions, face masks not just within Nobles but island wide. Maybe the island should demand isolation of new arrivals until a negative result? I am being slightly sarcastic of course. There are issues at Nobles, but these issues are created by Manx Care, and the Civil Servants within the DHSC. The Minister, Hooperman bears some responsibility for this mess, Manx Care can’t keep hiding behind Covid, Flu etc for its own failings, there are other issues as to nurse/healthcare workers non attendance, in addition to sickness. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderella Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 43 minutes ago, 2112 said: Another no shit Sherlock news piece this morning on the NPM, with Manx Care daily whinging and handwringing, about chronic staff shortages. I agree there are not enough frontline staff, those who actually do the administering of care. There is no shortage of management bigwigs, and with great salaries, working conditions and generous terms, not forgetting the all important civil service pension, there probably is no shortage of penpushers and management bods. If there is such a health issue affecting staffing at Nobles, then perhaps the island needs to go back to social distancing, hospital restrictions, face masks not just within Nobles but island wide. Maybe the island should demand isolation of new arrivals until a negative result? I am being slightly sarcastic of course. There are issues at Nobles, but these issues are created by Manx Care, and the Civil Servants within the DHSC. The Minister, Hooperman bears some responsibility for this mess, Manx Care can’t keep hiding behind Covid, Flu etc for its own failings, there are other issues as to nurse/healthcare workers non attendance, in addition to sickness. What is most notable this week is the vacuum of response from minister/government - the island’s primary health facility has to resort to Facebook to try and staff essential roles. How is there not outcry about this … and how can minister get away with no accountability #rhetoricalquestions 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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