asitis Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: At least things are more out in the open now. They are but not willingly, our administrations are seeing the downsides for them of social media. Their procedures are not set up for honesty and openness ! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Listening to Alf he’s certainly not resigning and talking about all he’s done to change culture etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestboy Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Banker said: Listening to Alf he’s certainly not resigning and talking about all he’s done to change culture etc CS speech writers bigging him up and protecting their asses. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, forestboy said: CS speech writers bigging him up and protecting their asses. Upto Tynwald if they want independent review Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, Banker said: Listening to Alf he’s certainly not resigning and talking about all he’s done to change culture etc Deeply pathetic. Apparently everything can be solved by more civil servants, more committees, more KCs. And kicking cans down the road. Anything other than politicians taking actions and taking responsibility for it. 11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Hiding behind sub judice again? Does that indicate the department is appealing again? How did Alf manage to turn an apology for Ranson into a compliment for Magson? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reptar Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 He really is an absolute fucking disgrace, that was even more pointless and empty than even I thought it would be. And expectations were low. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 34 minutes ago, Banker said: Listening to Alf he’s certainly not resigning and talking about all he’s done to change culture etc The only way he's leaving is the Keys removing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 A nice little compliment and nod of approval to Mr Ashford for all his hard work too. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebushy Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 25 minutes ago, cissolt said: Hiding behind sub judice again? Does that indicate the department is appealing again? How did Alf manage to turn an apology for Ranson into a compliment for Magson? He somehow managed to slip in a compliment to the hard work of both Magson and Ashford. That is the most watered down, pathetic statement imaginable. Full of words but saying nothing. He is genuinely completely out of touch. On a more positive note, my bullshit bingo card is complete. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Massive fail this morning. The usual bullshit from Alf and piss poor questioning from the members. Where were they all ? All done and dusted in half an hour. Disgrace. Things just got worse... 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, cissolt said: How did Alf manage to turn an apology for Ranson into a compliment for Magson? And Ashford as well. It sounded like that bit was pre-written as well, so there was no excuse for just how tin-eared it sounded - and it completely undermined the apology to Ranson. Cannan also deliberately[1] misunderstood Wannenburgh's point about apologising personally to her (ie directly in person) rather than just in a House of Keys statement. As ever the priority is about saving face rather than doing the right thing. [1] I can't believe that even he's that stupid as to miss what was meant. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Roger Mexico said: I can't believe that even he's that stupid as to miss what was meant. He knew what was meant. He even scoffed at the question and tried to turn it back on Wannenburg to hide it. I'm seriously disappointed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebushy Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: And Ashford as well. It sounded like that bit was pre-written as well, so there was no excuse for just how tin-eared it sounded - and it completely undermined the apology to Ranson. Cannan also deliberately[1] misunderstood Wannenburgh's point about apologising personally to her (ie directly in person) rather than just in a House of Keys statement. As ever the priority is about saving face rather than doing the right thing. [1] I can't believe that even he's that stupid as to miss what was meant. He didn't miss what was meant. He realised and gave his usual bluster bullshit answer as he had been caught out. Kudos for the question by Wannenburgh, probably the only useful one this morning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Banker said: Listening to Alf he’s certainly not resigning and talking about all he’s done to change culture etc and the peoples prince had recently bought a new suit in anticipation of his expected new job title. Edited May 9, 2023 by WTF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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