IOM DHSC & MANX CARE

[The Voice of Reason]

2 hours ago, Two-lane said:

 

Glover seems to have physically morphed into Ian Beale from EastEnders.

Or is that just me?

 

 

[Ghost Ship]

I thought he looked more like Simon Mayo...

[The Voice of Reason]

7 minutes ago, Ghost Ship said:

I thought he looked more like Simon Mayo...

Yes I can see that as well.

[WTF]

43 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Glover seems to have physically morphed into Ian Beale from EastEnders.

Or is that just me?

 

 

i was thinking a shaved frankie boyle.

[John Wright]

12 hours ago, Holte End said:

Just a question @Roger Mexico or @John Wright, is it not admitting liability, if you make an interim payment, when the tribunal is not concluded or if the settlement hadn't been agreed. Would  there been a nondisclosure agreement with this interim payment, would this be customary practice.

Liability had already been established. The interim wasn’t subject to a non disclosure agreement. It was referred to at the quantum hearing and mentioned in the judgment,

 

11 hours ago, offshoremanxman said:

Not sure about here but assume it follows suit. In the UK either side can make a Part 36 offer at any time in writing on a without prejudice save as to costs basis. It ups the stakes a bit though as if an offer is made and isn’t accepted and then you subsequently lose they can award adverse costs (just Googled it I think they’re Part 7 offers here).

Those are High Court Rules. WP save as to costs is different to Part 36/7. And the costs regime in Employment Is very different.

[Two-lane]

Somewhere in the recent past, the Attorney General stated that it was impossible to force Magson to return. Are any members of Manx Care's management still offshore?

[Cassie2]

1 hour ago, Two-lane said:

Somewhere in the recent past, the Attorney General stated that it was impossible to force Magson to return. Are any members of Manx Care's management still offshore?

Don't forget to check the locations of the Board members too! And to consider the many millions being squanderd every year on a totally outdated structure that the UK was saying does not work at the same time as the absurd Health Minister, one D. Ashford (yes, the one with years of frequent highly convenient dangerous memory failures on vital matters),  welcomed it. Yessir. 

We shall see whether serious criticisms and blame point to him when the two reviews have reported.  For many people they won't need to wait as there is already enough really damning material in the public domain for them to be in no doubt about blame attributable to him. 

 

Edited May 20, 2023 by Cassie2

[Moghrey Mie]

4 hours ago, Two-lane said:

Somewhere in the recent past, the Attorney General stated that it was impossible to force Magson to return. Are any members of Manx Care's management still offshore?

https://www.gov.im/about-the-government/statutory-boards/manx-care/board-members/

[360 View]

Nice to see the use of Twitter being used instead of Manx Care contact email  - total deniability of any decision making process, or receipt of complaint, in full action - well done! Keep it all under the radar!
 

This lack of accountability seems to be de rigeur for highly paid, senior or executive staff and the plethora of boards, who can then walk away with trollies of cash for a job ‘well done’ when it starts to get a little too hot to handle.

Asking for a friend : Are there any actual contact details for any part of Manx Care anywhere, other than for MCALS? 

[Gladys]

25 minutes ago, 360 View said:

Nice to see the use of Twitter being used instead of Manx Care contact email  - total deniability of any decision making process, or receipt of complaint, in full action - well done! Keep it all under the radar!
 

This lack of accountability seems to be de rigeur for highly paid, senior or executive staff and the plethora of boards, who can then walk away with trollies of cash for a job ‘well done’ when it starts to get a little too hot to handle.

Asking for a friend : Are there any actual contact details for any part of Manx Care anywhere, other than for MCALS? 

The Phone Book.  

[Jarndyce]

30 minutes ago, 360 View said:

Asking for a friend : Are there any actual contact details for any part of Manx Care anywhere, other than for MCALS? 

 

4 minutes ago, Gladys said:

The Phone Book.

That’s a bit radical, Glad…🙂

[Gladys]

2 minutes ago, Jarndyce said:

 

That’s a bit radical, Glad…🙂

I cannot find a Manx Care website, but their page on the IOMG website has links to some depts with phone numbers. 

  

[Moghrey Mie]

15 minutes ago, Gladys said:

I cannot find a Manx Care website, but their page on the IOMG website has links to some depts with phone numbers. 

  

https://www.gov.im/about-the-government/statutory-boards/manx-care/

[Gladys]

1 minute ago, Moghrey Mie said:

https://www.gov.im/about-the-government/statutory-boards/manx-care/

Yes, that is what I found.  They do not seem to have their own website  just that website. 

It has plenty of info, but it is not a dedicated with much more info, contact details, etc.

 

[2112]

Yesterday we had Professor Ashford saying on the NPM that Government owes RR a great apology, but he won’t personally apologise. He then says those responsible should reflect on their actions. Today it’s the Chief Ministers turn on the NPM where he decries, that government must understand what happened, and it must establish the facts. What is fact is IOMG for ever kicking the can down the road, and wanting to bury its head in the sand. It was forced kicking and screaming to establish an inquiry, and left to the likes of the Chief Minister, who would happily hide behind the lessons will be learned mantra, and subjudice at every opportunity to avoid tackling it issue head on.