hampsterkahn Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) There have been masses of publications regarding Vitamin D over the last few decades and the association of having very low blood levels and a number of diseases including but not restricted to bone health. There several factors to consider. Although very low circulating levels of the active vitamin D are associated with poor outcomes in several diseases including respiratory infection, there is a problem with establishing what is a desirable level. There is an association with the level of circulating vitamin D and sun light exposure and this relates to season, latitude and skin colour. Diet only accounts for relatively small amount of circulating vitamin D and to reach what generally regarded as a reasonable level, supplements have been advised for years for children, expectant and nursing mothers and the house- bound at least in the darker months of the year.The advised amount seems to take varies from country to country.This is nothing new. Finland supplied all its population with supplements from shortly after WW2 and other Northern countries which experience prolonged winter darkness seem to more ready than acknowledge the need compared to the British, though it has been advised for years.Eire produced a very comprehensive review with public health advice a couple of years ago. Elderly people are more at risk for several reasons not least that many can’t get out and benefit from natural sunlight, the process of skin activation of vitamin D is less efficient than in younger people and the dietary requirements, impractical for most people would be unattainable in this group. Edited May 23, 2023 by hampsterkahn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampsterkahn Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 3 hours ago, The Phantom said: General statement about people living at our latitude. We have evolved our pale skins to allow us absorb sufficient UV rays to synthesize sufficient Vitamin D to live. Thinking about it, I wonder if the recent obsession with sunscreen would hinder this process? Or eat a bit of Polar Bear liver.... But anyway, get outside. It has been claimed that sunscreen can interfere with Vit D metabolism. If you do happen to have a supply of polar bear liver you will find it very rich in Vitamin A, - but not a good source of Vitamin D. Don’t eat it. So much Vit A, in it that it can be dangerous , even lethal ( one ounce) it is thought that Vitamin A toxicity from eating polar liver was responsible for deaths and some psychotic episodes in early Arctic explorers. Holland and Barrett supply Vit D3 tablets- much easier, safer and very cheap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 40 minutes ago, hampsterkahn said: It has been claimed that sunscreen can interfere with Vit D metabolism. If you do happen to have a supply of polar bear liver you will find it very rich in Vitamin A, - but not a good source of Vitamin D. Don’t eat it. So much Vit A, in it that it can be dangerous , even lethal ( one ounce) it is thought that Vitamin A toxicity from eating polar liver was responsible for deaths and some psychotic episodes in early Arctic explorers. Holland and Barrett supply Vit D3 tablets- much easier, safer and very cheap. You are indeed correct. I mixed up my A's and D's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Here's the Acute and Community report. https://www.gov.im/media/1379714/20221208-acute-community-services-comprehensive-inspection-report-v3_compressed.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Runner Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 59 minutes ago, hampsterkahn said: It has been claimed that sunscreen can interfere with Vit D metabolism. If you do happen to have a supply of polar bear liver you will find it very rich in Vitamin A, - but not a good source of Vitamin D. Don’t eat it. So much Vit A, in it that it can be dangerous , even lethal ( one ounce) it is thought that Vitamin A toxicity from eating polar liver was responsible for deaths and some psychotic episodes in early Arctic explorers. Holland and Barrett supply Vit D3 tablets- much easier, safer and very cheap. Well said and good advice hampsterkahn May I add dont eat yellow snow when on holiday in the alps or at any other time too for that matter 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Have we had the old legacy issues statement from Manx care yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Report on Manx Care https://www.gov.im/media/1379711/20230103-manx-care-well-led-inspection-report-v2.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 This sounds terrifying. Why do we need a bespoke medical records system? Can't we just buy the same one they use in the UK? Anyone know which trust this has gone to? Id wager they have Manxcare staff links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Moghrey Mie said: Report on Manx Care https://www.gov.im/media/1379711/20230103-manx-care-well-led-inspection-report-v2.pdf Just the first few paragraphs are piss-poorly written. Does not exactly inspire confidence that we have been assessed by the "A" team. We carried out this announced well-led assessment Manx Care What does this even mean? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 "• Manx Care is a new organisation and they acknowledge they have come a very long way in a short space of time, but there is more work to do." Is Manx Care really a new organisation, or is it merely a few new managers on top of an already existing health service? And ... "they acknowledge". In other words, they claim to have come a long way. The phrasing is a bit dubious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 This is more concerning than the quality reports, treasury needs to find extra money for frontline medical staff not office civil servants https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/rcn-says-earliest-possible-date-for-strike-action-3-july/ 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 12 hours ago, Two-lane said: "• Manx Care is a new organisation and they acknowledge they have come a very long way in a short space of time, but there is more work to do." Is Manx Care really a new organisation, or is it merely a few new managers on top of an already existing health service? And ... "they acknowledge". In other words, they claim to have come a long way. The phrasing is a bit dubious. It was a new bureaucratic organisation, filled with ‘essential’ administrators. IOMG commissioned a report and Manx Care was recommended. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 When are savings not savings? “The organisation had a planned 1% saving each year in the first two years until March 2023, increasing to 1.5% in year three. These savings were met; however, Manx Care had an overspend of 10 million pounds at the end of the first year which had a cancelling effect on the savings. “ 1 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 13 hours ago, Augustus said: Just the first few paragraphs are piss-poorly written. Does not exactly inspire confidence that we have been assessed by the "A" team. We carried out this announced well-led assessment Manx Care What does this even mean? https://www.cqc.org.uk/guidance-providers/healthcare/well-led-outstanding 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Report on Mental Health Services https://www.gov.im/media/1379712/20230329-mental-health-inspection-report-v2.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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